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Caught me red handed

THE OIL....
IS...
PURPLE


Will do
and damn it...
You caught onto my gold obsession I'm going to use on my car.
Make ALL the things gold/yellow/bronze!

 
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having such a high filtration rate makes me a bit nervous sometimes. if it filters so well, how fast can it actually pass fluid?

 
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http://a.vimeocdn.com/p/flash/moogal...ip_id=35798091

Guess what I found?
It's not like all these companies don't do their own in house R&D.

Anyone see anything interesting between the FRAM burst tests and this? lol

It does skim over how "Other filters" use a cellulose blend (Like Fram does) filter media

That depends on the holding capabilities of the filter. If it becomes clogged, the bypass filter then opens to keep the oil flowing. Though, if the oil is going through the bypass, it renders the filter useless as it's not filtrating at all.

 
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Since my life is so terribly exciting, I decided to open one of my old Honda filters and check it out....

 
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A half hour commercial disguised as a gearhead program. (I bet, but didn't look) RP is a sponsor.


The video still mentions their 99.xx% @ 25 micron efficiency again.

Again with this:

Royal Purple is using the same method as above in order to be able to claim the 99% efficiency.
That means that particles smaller than 25 microns are getting through.



An aside:
Oil manufacturers that don't actually meet all of a particular set of specifications tend to use bottle labeling that has a very similar type of misleading statements.
Example: Read the wording on a bottle of oil that didn't actually meet GM's Dexos oil specs. Read how much they WANT you to believe it really did meet specs.



Sure doesn't look full to me. LOL

 
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thats why i went for amsoil filters. their rate is a bit lower, but it can hold more and flow better. it also solved the possible issue i had with the oil light turning on for a second right after starting the car on a cold day when using wix/mobil1/kn filters. this stopped when i switched to amsoil filter and has never happened again. im using redline synthetic oil too for over a year now. amsoil is 98.7% at 20 microns. admittedly better than most filters available. i also have to wonder about which brands are changing the numbers to make themselves look better. not to mention, the amsoil has nothing to actually break down over time. the most solid filter ive ever seen. i dont think i could ever use anything else.

http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/eao.aspx?1046189

 
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You described what happens when the filters don't have an anti-drainback valve and are mounted in a position other than upside-down (threaded end up). The filter can drain itself over a few hours time, so on the next startup the pump has to refill the filter before it can build the pressure up.

An anti-drainback valve helps a lot for this, especially when using a larger volume filter.
Example: Old Mopars (slant 6?) that had a HUGE filter mounted with the threaded end down could knock and rattle for a long time until the filter got filled with oil. Eventually they could beat themselves to death.
Anti-drainback valve in the oil filter got them quiet right away after a startup.


A small capacity (meaning liquid volume) filter allows more rapid filling and pressure light goes out sooner.



My lowrider has the filter mounted horizontally on the side of the block. It sits a lot. I want the smallest oil filter I can get so there is minimal delay getting oil pressure when I start cranking it.

Civics 8th gen --and newer-- (among others) have the oil filters mounted with the threaded end UP, so the filter cannot drain itself overnight. We don't have the issue at all.

Just FYI. HTH

 
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Is it A01 or A02? It looks like the A02 Fram to me?
I have a story. When I buy the filter at honda dealer, they always give me the filtech ver. (A01). But when I had oil changed at the same dealer, they gave me the A02 FRAM. I am like...

but I am not a fram hater. I used fram extra guard and tough guard when I drove Ford escort.


gearbox,

I had the oil light coming on when I used Wix filter too. It didn't happen when I use the A01, Bosch and Mobil 1 (not the current one)

There is a trade off between flow rate vs filtration rate for sure. But $16 is really expensive.

Have you guys ever tried MANN filter? Amsoil website has the one for a Civic too.

 
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I think you guys are just splitting haird at this point.

lol

So whats the best oil?

 
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Any that actually meets all of the specs that the manufacturer calls for.



Simple, huh?

 
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I dont use oil. I use PAM!

 
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Canadian Honda's run on maple syrup. Unfortunately maple syrup costs twice as much as oil.

 
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A customer was actually spraying this on her brakes because they made noise.

 
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all the filters ive used had anti drain back valve. the issue actually only started when i first switched to redline synthetic almost 2 yrs ago. maybe its not quite compatible with the "standard" filters i used like the mobil1 and wix and K&N. cant really explain it other that it happened and now its fixed. hopefully didnt do much damage in the year i used the regular filter and had the light flashing on.

 
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^yes. synthetic oil has certain additives that run close to 20 microns... and THAT is the reason why oil filters dont filter any lower than the 20 micron mark.

so in fact that its not that filter companies cant make a better filtering medium, but because it would be disadvantageous for you.

even those stainless filters filter only 20 microns.

 
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I see, that's reasonable.

 
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I dont even change oil anymore, that **** is overrated.

 
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I'm sending my block off to Dupont to have it Teflon coated. I'll have to buy plastic pistons though.