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Old Jun 6, 2005
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i think my lx redlines at 60 in 2nd
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Old Jun 6, 2005
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Originally Posted by silver04
dx/lx/vp manual trannies can do about 65ish in second
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Old Jun 6, 2005
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I do those all the time...matter afact I did it earlier today on the freeway..I was going 65 ish and I had to cut a car off or Id miss the exit so I downshifted to 2nd and cut him off and continued with my driving...Theres nothing like it..I love it....And Im not worried about my car not taking it
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Old Jun 6, 2005
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that happened alot with the RSX when it first came out, honda changed the shift gates to make it harder to do but they ended up replacing alot of engines before the fix was in place.
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I did it 2 times. It was on the way home from a meet and i was racing em2guy i was on top of 4th gear and i thought i was on 3rd and downsifted to 2nd i don't know what i was thinking but it redline but i took it out of gear quick damn i was scared cause i saw it hit 7rpm and i'm boosted too.
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I do those all the time...matter afact I did it earlier today on the freeway..I was going 65 ish and I had to cut a car off or Id miss the exit so I downshifted to 2nd and cut him off and continued with my driving...Theres nothing like it..I love it....And Im not worried about my car not taking it
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Did you just quote your own post and put the rockon smiley on it.... WOW
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Old Jun 6, 2005
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what's everyone talking about?


i'm talking about going 5th gear to 2nd on purpose

most people are talking about 3rd to 2nd which i do all the time
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Old Jun 7, 2005
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Originally Posted by Mustang5.0HO
I do those all the time...matter afact I did it earlier today on the freeway..I was going 65 ish and I had to cut a car off or Id miss the exit so I downshifted to 2nd and cut him off and continued with my driving...Theres nothing like it..I love it....And Im not worried about my car not taking it
yeah well if you have a transmission that has a 2nd gear with redline higher than 60mph then you can do that.


I also suggest if people don't have anything to contribute to the thread, then refrain from posting.

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Originally Posted by Vinh
what's everyone talking about?


i'm talking about going 5th gear to 2nd on purpose

most people are talking about 3rd to 2nd which i do all the time
I think the point that you should take from the posts is it depends on your speed.

If you're going 45mph in 5th and you want to downshift to 2nd, you can do it without really any trouble. If you're going 75mph in 5th and you want to downshift to 2nd, you could definitely cause some valve/piston contact and F up your engine.
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Bottom line is never downshift into second if your going above 55 if you have an EX, and never downshift into second if your going above 65 if you have an LX/DX.
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Old Jun 7, 2005
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FYI:

The redline mph of each gear in a stock EX manual are:
1st=30mph
2nd=60mph
3rd=80mph

In other words, if you drive an EX MT and you try to drop it from 5th into 2nd while you're going faster than 60 mph, you're fvcked.

Oh yeah, if you don't rev match correctly when you downshift, you can burn up your transmission pretty fast. I downshift through multiple gears all the time, but I ALWAYS rev match correctly for the speed I'm going. I love it when I downshift perfectly and the car just roars and takes off silky-smooth.

Last edited by masarak; Jun 9, 2005 at 09:10 AM. Reason: BTW: 99% of the time, downshifting into first gear while you're moving is a bad, bad idea.
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Did you just quote your own post and put the rockon smiley on it.... WOW
And mustang seriously LoL! who quotes themselves and puts a rock on... hahah u made my day.
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try it and you'll find some internals in ur oil pan haha
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Old Jun 8, 2005
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Originally Posted by silver04
dx/lx/vp manual trannies can do about 65ish in second

Damn.
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Originally Posted by Vantage
And mustang seriously LoL! who quotes themselves and puts a rock on... hahah u made my day.
Incase you havent noticed...ME.. Damn that quote really hurt alot of people.. well 2. But yeah..Dont get all butthurt about it..
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try going on the HGWH on 5th at 100 Mph and put it in first...

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I did it b4 in my friend H22a1 Accord. Was doing 75-80mps. try to downshift to 4th, miss 4th went into 2. Lucky I notice is quick, shift back to N. I saw the rpm went over 8+.
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I still don't get it how people misshift from 5th to 2nd. Even if I try to do it, the gates simply won't take it, as if they knew the engine's going to blow. I'm no mechanic, but I understand that the stick always has to flow smoothly from gate to gate without any force and upshifts/downshifts should always feel smooth. All that excessive force when shifting is just dumb. I am starting to congratulate myself even more for having bought my civic brand new.
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if i misshifted from 5th to second... (notice that the if is written in bold because i am not stupid enough to do so unless im going like 1000 rpm in 5th which i wouldnt be neway) my car would get up and back hand me in the face
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That kind of thing used to happen now and again w. Celica GT-S, with their higher redlines they weren't forgiving. I think there was a mention once of a GT-S on this forum that mis shifted and the techie guy who was doing the post mortem the day after found that the ECU said the car spiked at 14,000RPM before it died.

Theres also a vid somewhere of a TypeS misshifting somewhere on here, the guy engine basically explodes on the highway and he goes back w. the camera and you can see a looong trail of oil and then large chunks of metal on the road and in whats left of his oil pan after the aforementioned large chunks of metal blew through it.

Edit: I'm not sure if the TypeS thing is from the same vid on pg2. the vid. I saw showed the guy going back to look at the oil splotch on the pavement.

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Old Jun 9, 2005
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Originally Posted by thegent
All that excessive force when shifting is just dumb.
Ditto. If you have to shove it into gear, you're either shifting poorly or your transmission needs to be looked at by a mechanic.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
Here's the problem.

If you're OVER 60mph, like racing.... lets say redlining 3rd gear and shifting to 4th, but instead you accidentally shift to 2nd? It causes what's called a mechanical overrev.

No amount of rev limiter in the world will prevent this. You mechanically force the engine to overrev way beyond redline, and you can kiss your valvetrain and engine goodbye. Several THOUSAND dollars at LEAST to repair. It's a very VERY expensive mistake. And no.... it's not covered by warranty. And YES, the ECU/PCM in the civic WILL record a mechanical overrev so the dealership will know you've done it.

OK OK......now several Thousand is Over Exaggerating (sp*).............i know...........I've Done it.............i was doing 85. and went to down shift from 5th to 4th.. but the syncros didnt stop it. ( WITCH IT SHOULD). and BOOM.into 2nd and....Over 12k rpm's...............had it towed to the dealer ( 300 miles before warrenty went out...) and they fixed it. FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!!.... if you want a list of stuff it f***ed up.. Ill upload it...........heres a short list........
Head Gasget.
Lifters
Exhaust Gasget
Valves
Resurfased Pistons.
Valve Springs..

i asked how much the bill would of been and they told me. about $2500
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if you were going over 60mph you would redline
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In an auto it wont downshift to 2 until you are under about 70. prolly stated somewhere else in this thread but w/e, just reminding
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Originally Posted by Down_
and went to down shift from 5th to 4th.. but the syncros didnt stop it. ( WITCH IT SHOULD).
the synchros job is not to stop you from shifting into a gear you are supposed to shift into. lol. their job is to match the speed of the layshaft with that of the engine.
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Originally Posted by Changu-San
if you were going over 60mph you would redline
lol you'd do more than redline.
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