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Old May 10, 2005
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http://www.speedtv.com/articles/auto/formulaone/16757/

"The automakers were also not pleased with BAR-Honda’s two-race ban issued by the FIA International Court of Appeal following their alleged use of fuel as ballast in the San Marino GP. The manufacturers perceive the Court as lacking indepencence to argue such cases since it is connected to the FIA."
as another member already posted. they are charging them with alleged use of fuel as a ballast. ballast being something that can be adjusted through the course of the race by moving the 'ballast weight' from one area of the car to another. however, again, any fuel moving was part of the fuel system. a loophole. cheating? IMO no. IYO yes. also it wasn't "ballast" in the sense that they could go "ok now we need more weight on the left side, so pump more fuel". that kind of control was not able to be done.

and on top of that, fuel is a very crappy thing to use for ballast. it'd be extremely inefficient and would not make for much gain.
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I know this is a honda site and everything, but you can tell that FIA is being prejudical in its judgement. The stewards themselves cleared BAR honda in the initial 6hr scrutiny. They weren't found guilty till F1 filled a appeal.

They may be guilty of violating the spirit of the rules, but they didn't violate the written rules.

Its FIA's fault for not updating the rules.
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Old May 12, 2005
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just wanted to revive this to post BAR's latest statement. They have admited that they were wrong and now understand the car must be 600kg dry at all times.

Having investigated the matter fully, including making extensive enquiries of other teams, B•A•R Honda now accept that Formula One cars must always weigh more than 600kg when completely empty of fuel and that this applies even if the car's fuel system is such that some of the fuel in the car is unusable. Before making these enquiries it was the team's honest belief that fuel which could not be used during the race did not have to be removed before the car was weighed.

On this basis B•A•R Honda accept the decision of the FIA Court of Appeal as fair in the circumstances and recognise that the judges in this, as in other cases, are fully independent, being lawyers and professional judges of high standing who give their service on a voluntary basis.

B•A•R Honda want nothing more than to compete with other teams in the Formula One World Championship on an entirely fair and equal basis and look forward to rejoining the competition at the European Grand Prix.

http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlin...12180224.shtml
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they're gonna miss Monaco
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they're gonna miss Monaco
yea it really sucks i love that race. I just hope when they come back for the Nurburgring they're fast and get a podium legit.
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yeah for real. they still have an amazing engine this year.
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Originally Posted by Hawk
just wanted to revive this to post BAR's latest statement. They have admited that they were wrong and now understand the car must be 600kg dry at all times.




http://f1.racing-live.com/en/headlin...12180224.shtml

touche.
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