HONDATA for D17 - 0%
usafStud, Hondata isn't gonna develop anything for the D17 because
1.) They have no techinal skills to do what is required to extract power from the D17
2.) They are not willing to take the risk to do the R&D
3.) They are probably just waiting for AEM to resolve the issue with honda's multiplexor system so that AEM's engine management system will be perfect for the D17 and then Hondata will just copy it....
4.) They are just making excuses because the ECU's for the K24 & the K20 are almost identical. (if they tell you different, tell them they talking sh*t and KEZAY say so)
Man you should have just donated you car to AEM so that they could have tried to resolve honda's multiplexor system so that the AC and temp guage could work.
1.) They have no techinal skills to do what is required to extract power from the D17
2.) They are not willing to take the risk to do the R&D
3.) They are probably just waiting for AEM to resolve the issue with honda's multiplexor system so that AEM's engine management system will be perfect for the D17 and then Hondata will just copy it....
4.) They are just making excuses because the ECU's for the K24 & the K20 are almost identical. (if they tell you different, tell them they talking sh*t and KEZAY say so)
Man you should have just donated you car to AEM so that they could have tried to resolve honda's multiplexor system so that the AC and temp guage could work.
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Originally Posted by kezay
usafStud, Hondata isn't gonna develop anything for the D17 because
1.) They have no techinal skills to do what is required to extract power from the D17
2.) They are not willing to take the risk to do the R&D
3.) They are probably just waiting for AEM to resolve the issue with honda's multiplexor system so that AEM's engine management system will be perfect for the D17 and then Hondata will just copy it....
4.) They are just making excuses because the ECU's for the K24 & the K20 are almost identical. (if they tell you different, tell them they talking sh*t and KEZAY say so)
Man you should have just donated you car to AEM so that they could have tried to resolve honda's multiplexor system so that the AC and temp guage could work.
1.) They have no techinal skills to do what is required to extract power from the D17
2.) They are not willing to take the risk to do the R&D
3.) They are probably just waiting for AEM to resolve the issue with honda's multiplexor system so that AEM's engine management system will be perfect for the D17 and then Hondata will just copy it....
4.) They are just making excuses because the ECU's for the K24 & the K20 are almost identical. (if they tell you different, tell them they talking sh*t and KEZAY say so)
Man you should have just donated you car to AEM so that they could have tried to resolve honda's multiplexor system so that the AC and temp guage could work.
the main reason that i let them use my car was to start having a relationship with them
they race in honda challenge, which i plan to do so in 2006
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Originally Posted by freeturkeys
nah man looks like no go.. btw, your one sentence responses are the best 
and it sucks about Hondata.. oh well.. I'd rather have AEM
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Originally Posted by K20A_Wanabe
I rather get K20A3 then hondata. It probally wasn't gona be that impressive anyways.
So true my friend. They might as well throw in the towel on that idea. I wanna swap too.
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Rep Power: 0 Who says they are making an ECU for our cars?? heres the last post on the hondata site from someone who i assume works there:
Believe it or not, this happens quite often, but people have no idea of the cost even a 1 year development project. So tell us, how much money are you willing to spend? The reason I ask is that you probably have no idea about what it costs to reverse engineer an ECU.
You're made you point collectively, but our earlier post sums everything up. Please stop posting trying to encourage us to look at the D17 - we have, and at the moment nothing is possible. If there was any way to economically create a solution for the D17 ECU, we would. After all, that's what we are in business to do. If we cannot create a solution, either for technical or ecomonic reasons, there is no need to be angry with us.
Is there more info on this from another source?
Believe it or not, this happens quite often, but people have no idea of the cost even a 1 year development project. So tell us, how much money are you willing to spend? The reason I ask is that you probably have no idea about what it costs to reverse engineer an ECU.
You're made you point collectively, but our earlier post sums everything up. Please stop posting trying to encourage us to look at the D17 - we have, and at the moment nothing is possible. If there was any way to economically create a solution for the D17 ECU, we would. After all, that's what we are in business to do. If we cannot create a solution, either for technical or ecomonic reasons, there is no need to be angry with us.
Is there more info on this from another source?
someone gave his car to hondata for research and they still have his car.. that why this whole topic got started.. cause they have his car.. they tried to use a k20pro and it started and worked and everything so thats why there might be a possibility.. didnt you read the fist couple of posts from the beginning??.. it explains it all all in there
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Originally Posted by Blahman2
I want it! Now all we need is some one to make cams and other internals and we are set! Unless some one already does and i'm uninformed?
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Originally Posted by pnoyster2k1cvic
man, i don't know, with or with out the ecu, 160WHP right now and i'm a happy camper! 
well, atleast they are still trying, but only if they can get it working!
well, atleast they are still trying, but only if they can get it working!
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Originally Posted by STL01Civic
160whp is enough to take care a rsx-s. WHP not HP
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Originally Posted by hondaonchrome
sorry, but if you only have 160 to the wheels you will not beat an rsx type s, the type-s puts out about 168 to 172 to the wheels plus they have the closer gear ratio with there 6 speed tranny over our 5 speed,,,,i have done my research on the rsx type-s and they will beat up on our cars all day,,sorry to say this but its true,,
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There's a guy here with a type-s with Intake and Tein SS. His best at the track is 15.1. So for me it would be a drivers race and I'm NA. For a 160hp turbo civic a stock RSX-S should be no problem.
There's a guy here with a type-s with Intake and Tein SS. His best at the track is 15.1. So for me it would be a drivers race and I'm NA. For a 160hp turbo civic a stock RSX-S should be no problem.
u guys gotta remember that pnoyster hasnt got his car dynoed yet so he doesnt have exact numbers yet...u also gotta remember weight factor.. our cars are alot lighter the the rsx and even the SI.... also if you are boosted its better to have longer gearing
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Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
Back on topic..... Any recent word about HONDATA making a re-flash for D17!?
i'll be first to know if anything comes up on the d17.
i'll keep u guys posted
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Originally Posted by xproductionz
u guys gotta remember that pnoyster hasnt got his car dynoed yet so he doesnt have exact numbers yet...u also gotta remember weight factor.. our cars are alot lighter the the rsx and even the SI.... also if you are boosted its better to have longer gearing
amen to that brotha!
2k1 Cvic EX=105 whp
$4.30gl. fuel=??? whp
SF Kit 8PSI =80whp--------i've been runnin low on cash for some dyno time friggin kids hussled me last christmas!
dyno TBA!and all those mods on my sig
= smoke RSX-S NA anytime 2 on record plus one WRX and almost a 350Z 
and a bunch of ricers 
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