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Old Mar 22, 2009
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What are these wires??

Here is a pic of some wires I found under my dash can any one tell me what they might be?
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Re: What are these wires??

can u trace them? where do they lead to? and no there not factory. defently a aftermarket addon.
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Re: What are these wires??

do you have after market fogs?
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seems really thick wire for an alarm. could be fogs or some other device requiring alot of power.
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Re: What are these wires??

i def don't think its alarm cuz it has a fuse cud be fogs
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or a horrible stereo install.....
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omg i hope not lol
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Re: What are these wires??

it could be alarm, if you don't have a factory alarm... do you have remote start? that white wire could be going into starter.
Just a guess but yeah, thats gross.
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Re: What are these wires??

Some one here said to trace the wires an see where they went. So I did and this is what I found. Note my car is a standard transmission so what are your thoughts on this black box I found. I want it to be some thins that can lock and unlock my doors there is a switch on my drivers side door that does this.

edit I don't have any little key thing that goes with this so I really have no idea what it is and I just got this car less than a month ago
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Re: What are these wires??

where do the black wires with gold plugs go?
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Re: What are these wires??

Don't know where black wires with gold connectors go to but they look like antenna connectors for like wifi. So I found box disconnected it, and car still starts that is good took box in side opened up and look pic. Went to place that installs remote car starters and they thought it might me some thing for a cell phone or a lo jack if car is stolen. If some one really knows what it was then I would like to know. I just got this car less than a month ago.
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Re: What are these wires??

since it has esn number, it may be a satellite radio receiver.
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Re: What are these wires??

GOOGLE:

NIIGATA SEIMITSU CO., LTD. MANUFACTURES RF WIRELESS DATA TRANSCEIVER FOR AERIS.NET
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San Jose, Calif. PRNewswire | Sept. 25, 2001 —Aeris.net, a leading network for wireless telemetry messaging, announced that Niigata Seimitsu, a Japan based module manufacturer, has developed a new module for MicroBurst-enabled products. The NSA1800 transceiver is a complete turnkey module for original equipment manufacturers' (OEMs) applications, including remote vending machine monitoring, security alarm notification, asset tracking, and many more.

"We see a great opportunity for breaking into the wireless telemetry market by designing and manufacturing RF transceivers for Aeris's MicroBurst network," said Susumu Kusakabe, Senior Managing Director of Niigata Seimitsu. "We are pleased to be working with a high data integrity solution like MicroBurst.

The NSA1800 has an on-board micro controller for control of the radio and interface functions. Its extremely small footprint, low power standby operation, and low current consumption make it an ideal module for machine-to-machine applications. The NSA1800 is in final test phases and should be commercially available next month.

"Aeris.net receives Niigata's offering, designed to support the applications currently utilizing the MicroBurst network, with enthusiasm," said Peter Stone, Vice President of Business Development and CFO of Aeris.net. "Niigata has a reputation for manufacturing high quality radio modems and application solutions."

How MicroBurst Works

MicroBurst technology is a proprietary utility that enables short data packets to be transmitted over control channels in cellular networks using standard IS-41C signaling mechanisms. These short data packets are transmitted by cellular devices and are routed to the Aeris central hub facility over existing SS7 (Signaling System 7) networks. The Aeris hub identifies the service provider, the ultimate recipient for the data, and routes the data for delivery via one of several available back-end links, which include Internet and dedicated connectivity.

MicroBurst technology provides ubiquity of service and the lowest possible cost structure. All data distribution is handled by Aeris' central clearinghouse facility. This distribution strategy makes MicroBurst technology fully mobile and enables all MicroBurst devices to roam throughout North, South and Central America.
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Re: What are these wires??

Thanks electric130 but that still dosent tell me why this is in my car or what it does? Adding another pic the unit has 2 boards got them separated.
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Re: What are these wires??

Here are more pix of where the other wires go and I found another box.
The other box is where the red and black wires go. And the wires that have the gold connectors go up near the dashboard cluster.
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Re: What are these wires??

Question should I remove this box to?

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Re: What are these wires??

Removed 2nd black box and it is a battery pic attached.
Also removed gray wires came off without trouble pic attached.
Could not remove wires with gold connectors cant see where they go any tips help with removing?
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Re: What are these wires??

my guess is your car was a company car of some sort before and they had a tracking device put on it for fleet tracking. the cables with gold connectors look like common antenna connectors. they probably go to the antennas for the system.
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i think i know what it is/was now, a pager alarm with backup battery. the backup batt is useless because once it dies and cannot be charged, it starts to drain your big car battery all the time. if you dont have an alarm system now, i would suggest just taking all that junk out and throw away (recycle) the battery.
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Re: What are these wires??

They could go to the fuse box (just a guess), like on cigarette lighter sockets... couldn't really see
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Re: What are these wires??

That tells you exactly what it is. The board with an ESN on it is a cellular card and uploads data from the OBD port to the internet. It tells the owner (probably of a company) how fast the car is going, where it is, where it went and everything else about it. And it updates real time so the owner could log into a website and view all the statistics. I'd love to have that in my car, easy to tell where it went if it was stolen.
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Re: What are these wires??

Wow, that is some crazy technology. Hey if you have gotten rid of it yet, I wouldn't mind taking it off your hands. I love playing with technology, especially automotive stuff.
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mrplow123456 if you want what is left of it email me ejmcnq(at)gmail(dot)com
don't think that I have broken it yet, all so I live in Canada
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I'll have to think about it but I'm a lil strapped for cash as of late and shipping something could get me like 2-3 packs of cigs at these new prices. You could try selling it back to the company, most places that sell any gps/black box tracking usually don't like their stuff falling into the wrong hands. lol sounds like something illegal but seriously if you wouldn't mind holding onto it for a month and the company doesn't want it I'll definitely take it off your hands. It'd be cool to do some test drives and save all the info to compute program or something.
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whew...thought that was a ****in' bomb for a minute...lol...whatever it was, that was a ghetto *** installation!
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Re: What are these wires??

Just found this same device inside of my 02 LX Sedan while painting trim pieces. Could this be a tracking device from the actual dealer (Used car dealer with horrible rep in the area) to track where im going if they want to repo it for defaulting on my loan or something?

I have seen no signs that this was a company car from what research i have done.
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Sorry double post*

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