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good point. for every 3db's of boost, your amp is going to draw twice as much power at that freq.

 
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adire extremest 6.5'' fs 32hz thats lower than most 15'' subs, also weight doesnt mean better lets all take a second and say jokehammer or better the quadrasub with its 16 voicecoils, excuss misspelling i cant bring my self to say the name of a turd worth its weight in tin

 
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no offense towards you im also a re fan and run mt's in my comp car and a 12'' xxx in my home stereo. but the sound of a speaker is directly related to the box and its bl curve and roll off. tuning will play a mojor roll on how a speaker performs and the crossover/eq settings, because any speaker will play any noise. and like you said some speakers preform better than other at different hz based on there design and build. again no offense to what your said but wanted to clear that up a little and back to original question go with adire shiva, the build quality of jl's are not greater and price for performance is way below adire. also look at www.ascendantaudio.com and www.soundsplinter.com for other speakers in your price range that are great

 
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all the loads all of u r talking about is nothing...try this setup for a car stereo like i have in my 99 corolla...

My whole system includes:
Inside:
Alpine IVA-D300-In Dash DVD 7" Flip Touch Screen
Alpine Remote
Alpine PKG-700A-7" Flip Down LCD Screen
Alpine XM Module
Alpine KCA-420i IPod Controller
Alpine Digital Sound Processor (Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Sound)
Saav Wide Rear View Mirror w/ integrated 5" LCD screen
2- Saav Cameras (toggle switched)
-1 in trunk key hole
-1 mounted on 3rd brake light facing in
Phillips DVD-R Recorder
PS2
2 Gauge RF and JL Wiring
2- 6 1/2" 4-Way Pioneer TS-A1680R (220 W Max./50 RMS)Speakers in front doors
Clarion Center Channel (removed cup holders and put this in it's place)
2- 6 1/2" 2-Way MB Quart Discus in Custom Fiberglassed/Vinyl Covered Rear Deck
4- MB Quartz Titanium Tweeters w/ Crossovers (Inside pillars)
RF Competition Battery

Trunk Lid:
Dynamat Xtreme
Custom Fiberglassed/Vinyl Covered Trunk Deck Lid
15" Accele TFT Monitor
MB Quart Premium Components

Trunk:
Dynamat Xtreme
2- 12" Blue Neons
Custom Fiberglassed/Vinyl Covered Trunk
Alpine Digital Processor Controller (molded into the trunk setup)
2- Rockford Fosgate Power Series Digital 1.0 Farad Capacitors
JL Audio 450/4 Amp (For Highs) (Sitting on plexiglass)
JL Audio 1000/1 Amp (For Sub) (Sitting on plexiglass)
13.5" JL Audio W7

 
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no worries, i run a 12" xxx of of a pg x1200.1. very nice sub. but again, youre not going to get that extremest to play the kind of bass that a 15 will. unless i get like 4 or 5 of them, and even then, youre not going to get much output from them below 35hz-40hz. a speaker of that size has many physical limitations to deal with.

 
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sorry man but that post has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING related to this thread. We are discussing good subs that the man can buy for his money, not showing off our systems. And thats nothing really to be proud of, just a huge *** waste of money.

 
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Yeah...this thread has gone way off topic. Anyways back to my original question, I was thinking of getting a 12" adire audio or JL sub. Anyone have any experiences with this?

I was thinking of getting either a:

JL Audio 12w3-v2 (12" sub).

or

Adire Audio Shiva Mark V (12" Sub)

or

Adire Audio Koda (12" sub)

I've heard the Shiva can be compared to a W6 depending on the install. But I think the Koda has a better build and better SQ than the shiva. It uses adire audios XBL^2 motor. Anyone have experiences with adire subs?

 
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that must sound like absolute garbage...

 
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He also has only one battery for all of that electronics. Either he is making all of that up (because he has no pictures to prove it), or his RF battery is created by god himself. I mean its possible...but why not just get the second battery? Your car needs some juice too

 
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its not that, its the fact that if youre gonna do some decent work in the car, you might as well use decent speakers instead of cramming 83 shitty tweeters into your pillars...

theres a reason pioneer sells 4 and 5 way coaxials... its like the guy with a small **** who buys a porsche
overcompensation for shitty performance

 
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True. The more i look at that list, the more rediculous it gets. All i'm imagining is his old 99 'rolla packing the most expansive setup ever, and it gets funnier and funnier every time. I guess people forgot how to "draw the line'