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A guy I know's car just got totalled . He had $3000 worth of audio done to it at tweeter. I could not for the life of me figure out where the price came from. Well, while removing the audio for him, I discovered it. Tweeter sold this guy Boston RX 5 1/4" drivers along with Tweeters I can't even Identify. Also some 6" Boston RX series coax for the rear deck. one Alpine 12, an audio control eq and 3 amps. Yup, 3 amps. 1 2 ch for the sub, 1 4 channel for the rears, 2 channels unused. one 4 channel for the mids and tweets. All V12 amps for aroung 350 ea. Guess a set of components and a 4 channel for the fronts and rears would have required too much common sense. . . Or too little money. What bastards! They took this guy for a ride. They could have saved him the EQ and one whole amp if they just used a mono amp, 4 ch amp, component combination. It would probably sound better too considering they obviously didn't know how to run tweets and mids full range and cross them properly. They also crammed his Apline tape deck, yes they sold him a tape deck, into the dash soooo hard they literally cut the antenna wire in half and had to repair it.

Ouch, I just called Tweeter for a goof to ask some prices. They charged him around $1100 for parts just including his front and rear speakers and amps for them. I found out for $1000 at the same shop, they could do MB Quart Premiums in the front, Quart Reference coaxs in the rear powered by a 4 channel slash series JL AMP. OOPS.

 
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ur friends a moron!!! his own fault if u ask me, who spends 3 grand without doing some research!

 
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Well It's possible that he just took the experts opinion at Tweeter. Not everyone has the time and means to learn all about car audio before having something done.
If you were going to have surgery, are you moron for not learning medicine before hand? It's tweeter's responsability to give him the best stuff for the best money if that's what he asks for.

 
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^ ppl w/ too much money and too little common sense

 
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wow, that sucks to hear. just because he didnt know what exactly he was doing doesn't give them any right to screw him just because they feel like it. sorry to hear J187.

 
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bastards... they tryed to screw me on my audio equipment too... they try and steamroll you by talking "over your head" and get you to commit right there, it is like Boiler Room ( the movie, if you have not see, pick it up, it's great) lucky I had some audio experience and was able to get out w/ out getting screwed, but it was close...

 
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well i think they bi-amped the components which IMO is a good thing. he doesn't need rear speakers at all, although that's personal preference. if he did want them then he only needed a 2 channel amp for them. eq not neccessary but for fine tuning it's nice.

 
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1. just cuz they work at "tweeter" they are not an expert.

2. It is very likely he just took their advice. thats my point.

3. he didn't have to learn everything, but a little about an hour research could of saved him like a grand.

4. Don't ever compare surgery to car audio!!! and yes if I was having surgery I would learn everything I could about the procedure, all alternatives, advant/disadvens.

5. It's tweeters responsibility to make money!!

WOW, I can see why hes ur friend you guys have alot in common!

 
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Well there were no x overs. But they did run the tweets and mids off their own channels. But you say In your opinion that's a good thing? An extra $350 amp + an EQ just to bi amp some shitty boston RX series speakers?? That's not a good thing. Thats a waste of money.

Boiler room was an excellent movie!

 
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if his goal was not to spend that much money then yes it was a waste. good speakers are not IMO bi-amping gives you more control although you say there wasn't any crossovers so it is a waste.

 
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HELL YEA I totaly forgot about the movie till I ran into a copy at a local game shop and picked it up for cheap and have watched it like 4 times since lol!

 
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a lot of money with no brains

 
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o that sucks. thats hwy u DIY or if u got lotsa money expect this to happen

mechanics do the same thing.. home repair guys. everyone does it. if you havnt a clue and your willing. they take oyu for what they can.

 
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sad, but very true...

 
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yea its funny to watch like MTV RIDES and see rappers with 10,000 dollar JL audio systems i can easily get new off ebay for MUCH MUCH MUCH LESS.

 
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like the g-unit band. they had a whole jl setup in the trunk. i bet they paid MSRP price for each item in there.. suckers. only thing those rapper knew about the JL setup was "JL"

 
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Thank goodness for the internet. I probably wasted over a grand myself buying stuff 6 yrs ago or so that I never had any business buying. This happens every day though, not just in the car audio industry. These car audio shops certainly DO screw the people that let them, but i'd be willing to bet that regular auto mechanic shops screw more people out of more money everyday than anyone else. That's why i've come up for a personal rule for myself when it comes to car audio.....never pay for anything to be installed unless you absolutely can't do it yourself....a lot of these audio shops make much more on install's than they do on the markup of the equipment. With the self install method it all comes down to one simple point....what is your time and effort worth to you


edit....i don't know why i quoted what i did, it is afterall st patrick's day or atleast it was a little while ago.

 
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I like Mountain Dew.

 
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But the difference between you and rappers is, they don't care. All they want is service if it breaks down, and it to be loud.

 
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^true. they probably had a personal handyman choosing the equipment.

 
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The thing about most rappers is, they gauge their bling by the Money it costs. Shaq would probably rather pay $1200 for a $200 head unit if it meant he could say he had a $10000 instead of a $9000.

Also, I understand what some people are saying that this guy could have done more research, but the fact is, he is a 40 year old business man who doesnt' have time to scour ww.eliteaudio.com for knowledge and information. He relied on the trusted word of professionals and they screwed hm. It's easy for us to say, "should have done more research" or "who spends more than $1000 without research" but we just say that because we are audio people. We often don't realize how much goes into educating ourselves about this stuff, and we have a genuine interest. This dude couldn't care less about off-axis or transient response. He just want's good sound. Besides, how many of us took the time to learn the ins and outs of auto insurance before selecting a policy?? It just makes me sick when these people take advantage of a guy who's trying to put his 2 kids through college and enjoy some of the small luxaries in life. I called the bastards to tear them up, unfortunately the salesman no longer is with the company. Hopefully something bad happened to him. . .

 
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my brother-in-law works at tweeter in south jersey. he hates being a salesperson (possibly for your reason), he now does install and he's pretty good. But I can't say he rips us off, if anything, he damn near gives us stuff away. But I guess thats some of the perks of having someone who works there and gets everything for almost wholesale.

 
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well maybe you should hit him again, I heard recently that Tweeter is going to pick up the Focal line and there is a huge margin on Focal.

 
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I'm not huge into car audio, is Focal good? Or are they just expensive?

 
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focal top of line speakers are the ish

 
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Focal and Mb Quart are interchangeable in my book as far as quality goes. The two best speakers I've ever heard are Q Series Quarts and Focal Utopias.

 
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I wondered how long this thread would go b4 we got someone who knew someone that worked at tweeter, lol! But yea, but buddy works at tweeter, and my guess is that the reason you buddy got screwed was that all the sales people are working for commision, so if the guy in sales is money hungry and has a person wander in looking for equipment that has no info on the subject, it is easy to see how your friend got ripped off... I mean come on... how many people get good deals at car dealerships... very few for the same reason...