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What's the difference between?

A/C Compressors:
Part #38800-P2R-A01
Part #38800-P2F-A01

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Re: What's the difference between?

If I pick ...1999 Civic sedan and look up the AC system.....
Add RM on the end of the part numbers for reman compressor...

P2F is for DX, DXV, and LX
P2R is for EX and GX


The main difference I see in the parts is the clutch and pulley set. Doesn't say what the difference is, but they have different part numbers.

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Hmm, I went to used parts store, gave them my VIN for my '96 Civic EX, which I was driving at the time and they sold me the P2F. Is P2F the right part...Is it compatible with and will work with my '96 Civic EX?

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I only have part numbers to go by in my catalog, so according to that.....

Match it up with the compressor you have. Does it match?
Then bolt it on and see. I have a feeling it will.
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I went ahead and called local dealer, who confirmed both the P2F and P2R are compatible with my 96 civic EX but could not tell me the difference. They also said I need a "drier" Part#80351‑S01‑A01, which they quoted me $112.07. DAMN... The darn used compressor only cost me $75...Just sayin'! With that said, I have 2 local mechanics that I use and each one quoted me $200 to flush, replace and add Freon...Thoughts?
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Why? Drier is not 100% necessary every time they tell you. Look at what the filter/drier does and evaluate if it would really be necessary to replace it...

Drier would be necessary if the system has been left open and exposed to moisture.

Drier might be necessary if there was a catastrophic internal failure of the compressor. (If that were the case it would need a condensor too.)


Aftermarket compressor warranties often stipulate they want the drier replaced with the compressor, else your warranty is void.



WHY do you wish to replace the compressor in the first place?
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Why? Drier is not 100% necessary every time they tell you. Look at what the filter/drier does and evaluate if it would really be necessary to replace it...

Drier would be necessary if the system has been left open and exposed to moisture.

Drier might be necessary if there was a catastrophic internal failure of the compressor. (If that were the case it would need a condensor too.)


Aftermarket compressor warranties often stipulate they want the drier replaced with the compressor, else your warranty is void.
One mechanic didn't seem concerned with me getting a new Drier because he figures the coil is shot but the other mechanic insisted I buy a new Drier before he'd install the compressor. The mechanic, who insisted is also the one, who gave me the codes referred to in the following thread, which once reset have still not come back yet. Come to think of it, I found all 4 spark plug wires loose, soon after I got the car back from him:
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/217-mechanical-problems-vehicle-issues-fix-forum/364120-cel-codes-p0700-p0702.html

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WHY do you wish to replace the compressor in the first place?
It's getting warmer out there. And see the following thread. It's been a while but I just went with used instead of reman or new: https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...ompressor.html
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And see the following thread. It's been a while but I just went with used instead of reman or new: https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...ompressor.html


Oh.....*looks through thread*
20A Fuse #56 keeps blowing.
Did you ever figure out why the fuse was blowing? If your fan is causing it, another compressor won't help.
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Did you ever figure out why the fuse was blowing? If your fan is causing it, another compressor won't help.
Fan runs without blowing the fuse.
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Back to the drier issue...... Since the compressor didn't have a catastrophic internal failure (that we know of so far) and assuming the system is still full of freon (will know more when you have the system recovered, freon removed) then there shouldn't be a real need for drier replacement IMO.
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That's how the first mechanic seemed to feel. How does $200 to flush, replace and add Freon sound?
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That's how the first mechanic seemed to feel. How does $200 to flush, replace and add Freon sound?
Scary cheap compared to what it would cost at my shop.
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Re: What's the difference between?

How much at your shop?
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......Figure a bit more than double your price quote.
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If that's the case, I'll most likely forget about DIYing this and go for the $200 deal with the first mechanic, since that's the price to see, if this part actually is good or not. Keeping in mind, the part is guaranteed for 90 days "...given it's installed by someone, who knows what they're doing and has the right equipment".
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I was looking over your comments i.e. "I hate taking chances on aftermarket" on my previous thread Re-Manufactured or new a/c compressor? Before pulling the trigger on this, I'd appreciate your thoughts on buying a Used ($75, with 90 day warranty) vs New ($500+ with 1 yr warranty) A/c compressor on this 20 year olde girl?
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I was looking over your comments i.e. "I hate taking chances on aftermarket" on my previous thread Re-Manufactured or new a/c compressor?
Yeah aftermarket can be scary when you've seen some of the junk I've seen. Aftermarket reman compressors seem to only last a year or two.

Before pulling the trigger on this, I'd appreciate your thoughts on buying a Used ($75, with 90 day warranty) vs New ($500+ with 1 yr warranty) A/c compressor on this 20 year olde girl?
That's up to you. Spending $500 on a 20 year old car that's only worth about $500 (guess based on random KBB) pretty much totals the car out on paper.
(but I sometimes spend like that on my old truck too, it's 29 years old this year....it needs some bearings in the trans soon and some hoses and a timing belt and and and and)

How much longer do you expect the car to last? (20 seems like a long life here unless it lives in a garage)

Used unit sounds cheap enough but it could have issues too. You have a way to test before buying?

You could keep your compressor (it's already used and it worked, right?) and just fix whatever is blowing the fuse? Bare wires?
If it's shorted the field coil, replace that and the clutch/pulley set?
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Re: What's the difference between?

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Turns out you were right and local Honda dealer was wrong...P2R is for my EX VTEC.
Now, I can return the used part and start from scratch.
How much longer do you expect the car to last?
Good question...I DO have a loud screeching noise coming from what sounds like the passenger side under the dash. The screech occurs intermittently, when I accelerate and I'm concerned that I do not know what is causing it...Any ideas?

Other Known issues:
1) Oil leak from unknown location for as long as I can remember.
2) Banging noise from front left tire area, when I turn the to left; 2-3 years.
3) Body rust in several small but growing areas...Oxidation on several larger areas.

FWIW, the first mechanic quoted me the following for a New aftermarket Denso Compressor with Clutch and Coil plus Drier:$330 + $25-30 Freon + $175 labor
$25 New Drier + $35 labor
$590-$595 TOTAL
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.I DO have a loud screeching noise
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THAT's IT!!
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2) Banging noise from front left tire area, when I turn the to left; 2-3 years.
Ever since someone replaced the outer tie rod end?

screech occurs intermittently, when I accelerate and I'm concerned that I do not know what is causing it...Any ideas?
Figure out what causes it and then you'll know!

IDK...Fan motor, AC freon hiss, HVAC servos if equipped.....no clue and I can't hear anything from here.
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I have no clue...
Returned the wrong used compressor and will have to troubleshoot or have mechanic take another look at to figure out what causes....Thanks!
 
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