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ellllo everyone so here’s the dealio, I own a 01 civic five speed 1.7 which IS a VTEC , at 230k my timing belt jumped therefor bending one of my valves. So current day I purchase a new entire engine assembly , then I come to find out that this one I purchased IS NOT a VTEC, however it is the same at a 1.7,So broad question I know there is a lot to go about regardless when doing a enourmAs project like this , but do I have to gut all wiring that links to engine are there any wires or sensors I can leave in. I do plan on once I get it ready replacing alll baskets and overhead seals on my new engine once they come in the mail tom. Also do I need to have a VTEC head then to keep the VTEC running live and well like once before, is there anything MAJOR I missed or failed to mention that I need to do along the way or check in this very difficult but rewarding fix to my car ! Thank you to all in advance for help
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

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[left]are there any wires or sensors I can leave in.
any sensors in the block, you can leave in.

Also do I need to have a VTEC head then to keep the VTEC running live
Yeah you do. The reason you have VTEC in the old block is because of the VTEC head. No VTEC head, no VTEC,. That said, if you don't have a D17A1 (1.7L non-VTEC) ecu, I guarantee that you that when you get it running, you're gonna be limited to 4000rpm. Your OEM ecu is gonna be looking for the VTEC system, which will be non-existent at this point, and it'll throw a P1259 code and throw your car into limp mode (hence, the 4000RPM engine cutoff point). Slight caveat though, if you get your hands on a D17A1 ecu and drop it in, your car won't start because your key wouldn't be programmed to that ecu.

Not gonna lie. It'd be easier to get a shop to recondition the head (recondition valve guides, deck the head, and maybe have them assemble the head with new valves) than swapping the engine to a non-VTEC engine. Just my opinion.
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

my insight.....

make sure to mount the motor with the exhaust facing the front!
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

Rice boy thank you and mikey1 idk if I sound that unintelligent but there’s only one way to connect the manifold obviously so thanks but no thanks , rice is there any estimate you could give me on how much a shop would charge to do all that??
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

The one time I had a shop do that exact repair for me (my timing belt broke and bent all 16 valves), they charged me ~$1500. It was my dad's friend's shop, and he was supposed to give me a discount, but dude didn't. I could've done the job myself for half the cost.

For a VTEC to non-VTEC engine swap, I couldn't tell you. If you use a D17A1 ECU, cost goes up (due to price of the ECU and transponder programming), but it'll work better than trying to make your D17A2 ECU work.
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

So current day I purchase a new entire engine assembly , then I come to find out that this one I purchased IS NOT a VTEC,
Simplest IMO would be to send the wrong engine back and get the correct engine.
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

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Simplest IMO would be to send the wrong engine back and get the correct engine.
luckily that’s what’s gonna happen the place said they had one that would fit my car so I do have have to just pay the difference as this vtech is about 150 more then the one I got, saying that it is a full engine assembly with all wiring harness so to start removing my old engine do you guys have like a general guide on where and how to start disconnecting everything inside engine bay and and do I bother even leaving anything in there? I know riceboi already kinda helped me out with a similar question but now that I know what I am getting will be right I feel like I wanted to address again, lastly I’ve read some things on how to tell all specifics of your car with the vin , that being said I have a 2001 2dr, 5 Spd, with the 1.7L vtec (that’s stock how I purchased it) I never received a owners manual from the seller to tell me the sub model, there are no power windows no sunroof um idk if there’s anything else I can describe to help determine this
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

Oh yeah 1HGEM21791L098142 is my vin
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

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Oh yeah 1HGEM21791L098142 is my vin
Oh lawdy HX is the trim level....You need to check the engine code on the font of the block before you f with trying another engine, it may be tough to find a good D17A6 engine

I can't tell you what all the differences are between this car and others, and I can't say for sure a regular engine (D17A1, D17A2) would play nice with the HX (lean burn)ECM
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

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Oh lawdy HX is the trim level....You need to check the engine code on the font of the block before you f with trying another engine, it may be tough to find a good D17A6 engine

I can't tell you what all the differences are between this car and others, and I can't say for sure a regular engine (D17A1, D17A2) would play nice with the HX (lean burn)ECM
yeah I done wised up and googled my vin lol I figured that all out any pointers on the disassembling of the bad engine I have in my car right now
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

Headgasket replacement parts list
Head Gasket + Timing Belt DIY
Schematics used during head gasket repair

You're gonna have to tweak the aformentioned guides to include valve replacement, but those links are a start.
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Remove cylinder head, send it to a machine shop to have valves replaced
Receive fixed cylinder head a couple days later, reinstall
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Re: First time diy engine swap plzsend insights

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Headgasket replacement parts list
Head Gasket + Timing Belt DIY
Schematics used during head gasket repair

You're gonna have to tweak the aformentioned guides to include valve replacement, but those links are a start.
nice well yeah um I will be sending the one I got back to exchange for a 1.7 with the VTEC luckily they had an entire complete engine assembly so when I do pick that one up while it’s up on a stand I already purchased a kit online of a complete set of gaskets to replace all throughout the engine, and I will be taking out the new tensioner and starter I put in my engine that’s in my car now as they’re new and things I replaced thinking they were the problem to my car not running before I took off the head and saw my valve was bent, so instead of sending in the head and paying an arm and a leg to have all those re fabs done the new one with the VTEC has about 205k which is 35k less then my current one and a 90 day parts only warranty but should I just strip the engine bay clean of everything if so where is the best place to start and where to continue after that thanks
 
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