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Old 05-05-2003
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Question odometer fraud

Hey, how would you know if anyone is doing odometer fraud(like stopping their odometer reading). I wanted to buy a used car and I want to know how to find this out...

Any info regarding odometer fraud, post it here please. Thanks.
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Its pretty hard to screw with an electronic odo... the ECU keeps track.
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digital odometer its a lot harder to stop or adjust milage but if its regular style odometer if it was messed with you can tap top of dash right above odometer and if numbers jiggle Guess what its been adjusted. Also some people who do their own service on the car and dont take it to dealer who records milage after a while they go to junk jard and buy odometer with less miles. so be carefull.
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Originally posted by Boilermaker1
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Its pretty hard to screw with an electronic odo... the ECU keeps track.
I always here conflicting arguments on that one...people always argue that the ECU doesn't keep track then others say it does....

I'd say it doesn't since ECU stands for Emissions Control Unit, I'd say all it does is takes the RPM's of the engine and controls air flow and fuel flow based in that, called a fuel map...I don't think it has anythign to do with Mileage....
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I'd say it doesn't since ECU stands for Emissions Control Unit, I'd say all it does is takes the RPM's of the engine and controls air flow and fuel flow based in that, called a fuel map...I don't think it has anythign to do with Mileage....
I believe it stands for Electronic Control Unit... but yeah its debatable on what keeps track. I think it varies depending on the make. I know that when you swap out the instrument cluster out of our cars they make you put a sticker on your door jamb to show the correct mileage.
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you can check the vin number of the car
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So basically, the way to check is run a vehicle report using the vin. How does the vehicle history report able to get that info if the owner of the car changes his own oil and everything? Is that always accurate or will I be able to get ripped off regardless of the Vin number checkup?
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everytime they smog your car they record your mileage
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Originally posted by DizWikedCivic
everytime they smog your car they record your mileage

ding ding ding BINGO

thats the best way to find out if the odo been f'ed with.
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but what of the states that dont have smog tests? and most ppl that wanna puts with the odo... they change the entire gauge cluster
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First of all, the ECU stands for Engine Control Unit.

Secondly, any time you service your car at the dealer, smog it, or do any maintenance at any one of many locations, your mileage is noted. As for the numbers jiggling when you tap your dash, that only happens if it's done the wrong way. You might also see a line thru the numbers, it's quite thin so look carefully. Many manufacturers use that as a sign of tampering.

Oh, and the ECU doesn't keep track. That's a mith. If you disconnect the speedometer cable and run your car, and then reconnect it, you will notice your mileage hasn't changed. The memory is only kept in the odo itself.
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my friend told me about a year ago that if u take it to a gas station, they can put it on a machine that tells u how many miles the engine has? i dunno if its true anybody hear of this??
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Originally posted by Civic2k1racer
my friend told me about a year ago that if u take it to a gas station, they can put it on a machine that tells u how many miles the engine has? i dunno if its true anybody hear of this??
never heard of this one. Not sure if its actually true
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I think thats a federal offense, i will look it up for you guys to make sure. I am sure it varies from state to state.

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Originally posted by flotsamm
I believe it stands for Electronic Control Unit... but yeah its debatable on what keeps track. I think it varies depending on the make. I know that when you swap out the instrument cluster out of our cars they make you put a sticker on your door jamb to show the correct mileage.
I thought it stood for Eat Connies Unit.....
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I think thats a federal offense, i will look it up for you guys to make sure. I am sure it varies from state to state.

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If it is a federal offense it would not differ from state, it would be national
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im pretty sure if you swap your gauge cluster, then the ECU will not keep track and it is not tracable!
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"my friend told me about a year ago that if u take it to a gas station, they can put it on a machine that tells u how many miles the engine has?"
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What do you think they do, carbon-date it????
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Originally posted by spookini
"my friend told me about a year ago that if u take it to a gas station, they can put it on a machine that tells u how many miles the engine has?"
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What do you think they do, carbon-date it????

LOL! thats jokesss!
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Originally posted by spookini
"my friend told me about a year ago that if u take it to a gas station, they can put it on a machine that tells u how many miles the engine has?"
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What do you think they do, carbon-date it????
HAHHA GOOD ONE!
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Yeah, I was under the impression that OBD-II (on board diagnostics) kept track of milage. Thats what the wierd looking 'port' is under the drivers side of the dash of every car made in the last 10 years. I could be wrong though.
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i would think that you are wrong!
sorry
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There is a chip attached to the Odometer that counts up, to change it you need to purchase a new chip. to get a new chip, you first need to find out what type of chip it is, and serch for that same chip at an electronics store (Some Manufacturers use Generic chips) or some how aquire one from the factory (Highly Improbable). Now that you have the blank chip, you need to program it to accept the cars signals and interprit them properly (requireing special equipment) so with an electronic odometer, it is not impossable, just improbable due to it being such a pain in the *** to do.
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