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Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

So I've been thinking about buying a 5th gen Civic sedan, should I try to wait out an EX trim for the improved D16 engine, or is it not even worth my time to wait for one. Being new to the market I'm unsure about availability between the trims so I was looking for some general insight into which trims are most available, I don't really want a DX trim but if that is really the only thing available I will go for it and ignore waiting on LX or EX trims. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

It depends on if you're getting a manual or not. If you are, wait for an EX. If not, don't waste your time. That's my thought process on it, anyway.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

also, getting pretty difficult to find stock cars by now. You will need to check engine code to know if they were swapped or not
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Live in Florida? I'm thinking of selling my '95 EX (swapped engine B20).
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Originally Posted by HR Puffinblunts
Live in Florida? I'm thinking of selling my '95 EX (swapped engine B20).
Depends on how much we are looking at, I'm in NC but me and my dad could drive down if it's a good deal.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

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Depends on how much we are looking at, I'm in NC but me and my dad could drive down if it's a good deal.
I live in NC also in the Piedmont triad area. My son and I are driving the car from Florida to NC in late June. I will garage the car here and he is moving from FL to NYC.

Due to the modded engine I don't think it will pass safety inspection in NC. It's age doesn't require emissions testing.
Price is $3,500 firm. 95' EX Coupes are going up in value as they are getting harder to find. Mine is in very good condition and no mechanical issues.
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Here it is: https://www.civicforums.com/g/album/8160578
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Originally Posted by HR Puffinblunts
I live in NC also in the Piedmont triad area. My son and I are driving the car from Florida to NC in late June. I will garage the car here and he is moving from FL to NYC.

Due to the modded engine I don't think it will pass safety inspection in NC. It's age doesn't require emissions testing.
Price is $3,500 firm. 95' EX Coupes are going up in value as they are getting harder to find. Mine is in very good condition and no mechanical issues.
I would DEFINITELY be interested, and 3500 is an amazing price, do you have a phone number, my name is Evan.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

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I would DEFINITELY be interested, and 3500 is an amazing price, do you have a phone number, my name is Evan.
I wouldn't sell you a car that won't pass state (NC) inspection if you intend it to be a daily driver. My wife and I moved to NC about 18 months ago and prior to moving here I called a few shops here to find out if my car can pass, I told them it has a swapped engine and they all said it won't pass as it has to be the same engine code as what came out of the factory (1.5L).

Unless, you are going to use it as a track car only you probably can't register it in NC. Florida doesn't have inspections so the car sat at my mom's house unused for over a year until my son moved from California to Florida. I gifted the car to him. Now, he's moving out of Florida and it won't pass NY state inspection either.

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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Originally Posted by HR Puffinblunts
I wouldn't sell you a car that won't pass state (NC) inspection if you intend it to be a daily driver. My wife and I moved to NC about 18 months ago and prior to moving here I called a few shops here to find out if my car can pass, I told them it has a swapped engine and they all said it won't pass as it has to be the same engine code as what came out of the factory (1.5L).

Unless, you are going to use it as a track car only you probably can't register it in NC. Florida doesn't have inspections so the car sat at my mom's house unused for over a year until my son moved from California to Florida. I gifted the car to him. Now, he's moving out of Florida and it won't pass NY state inspection either.
How do they decide what engine is in it, isn't the b series pretty similar to d series in terms of looks, do they come look at it personally or is it more of a you get caught and the car is impounded, because this would be my daily.
-edit I'm doing some googling and it seems like it just has to meet emissions, be the same brand, and be the same year or newer engine, I know you called some shops but I'm unsure about what to trust.
-edit 2 (from the EPA) "It should be noted that while EPA's policy allows engine switches as long as the resulting vehicle matches exactly to any certified configuration of the same or newer model year as the chassis"
Later civics have B20's in them, wouldn't this then make it legal.

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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

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How do they decide what engine is in it, isn't the b series pretty similar to d series in terms of looks, do they come look at it personally or is it more of a you get caught and the car is impounded, because this would be my daily.
-edit I'm doing some googling and it seems like it just has to meet emissions, be the same brand, and be the same year or newer engine, I know you called some shops but I'm unsure about what to trust.
-edit 2 (from the EPA) "It should be noted that while EPA's policy allows engine switches as long as the resulting vehicle matches exactly to any certified configuration of the same or newer model year as the chassis"
Later civics have B20's in them, wouldn't this then make it legal.
One is DOHC, the other is SOHC. Massive visual difference.
No civics ever came with B20's. B20's came in CR-V's, which I suspect are worse for emissions that civics.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Originally Posted by Chezboat24
One is DOHC, the other is SOHC. Massive visual difference.
No civics ever came with B20's.
Ah, where they in any subdivisions of the civic, del sol, cr-x, prelude etc, also, would a couple teenagers at Jiffy Lube really see that it wouldn't pass, I mean, this is a deal I'm not really sure I want to pass up, just because I haven't found anything relatively close to even driveable yet, and the luck with you being in the Piedmont region, I'm just trying to find any solution.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Originally Posted by wheatroot
Ah, where they in any subdivisions of the civic, del sol, cr-x, prelude etc, also, would a couple teenagers at Jiffy Lube really see that it wouldn't pass, I mean, this is a deal I'm not really sure I want to pass up, just because I haven't found anything relatively close to even driveable yet, and the luck with you being in the Piedmont region, I'm just trying to find any solution.
I'm not the guy with the car. That's HR.

B20's came only in the CR-V and first gen prelude (which would fail anyway because it's an OBD0 engine). If the car was able to pass, it doesn't sound like he'd be selling it.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Originally Posted by Chezboat24
I'm not the guy with the car. That's HR.

B20's came only in the CR-V and first gen prelude (which would fail anyway because it's an OBD0 engine). If the car was able to pass, it doesn't sound like he'd be selling it.
OP...Chez is correct.
I can't consciously sell you a car that you won't be able to register.
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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

Originally Posted by HR Puffinblunts
OP...Chez is correct.
I can't consciously sell you a car that you won't be able to register.
Disappointing, I thought I found myself a car, thanks for the offer anyways. Do you have the original D16 for the car though?
-edit Also I appreciate the honesty, you could have dumped it on me and left me screwed.

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Re: Buying a 5th gen EX trim.

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Disappointing, I thought I found myself a car, thanks for the offer anyways. Do you have the original D16 for the car though?
-edit Also I appreciate the honesty, you could have dumped it on me and left me screwed.
Prior owner did the swap and he bought as a shell (no engine) from his friend. It was an automatic transmission orginal and he swapped in an Acura LS manual.
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