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Old Oct 27, 2004
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turbo timer

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i was wondering.. will any turbo timer work on an N/A vehicle?

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wuts the point of it?
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to cool down the engine.. any car even a non-turbo car should be cooled down, especially if it is ran hard.
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Originally Posted by jawn_myek
to cool down the engine.. any car even a non-turbo car should be cooled down, especially if it is ran hard.
turbo timer shows u the psi.. and what boost ur runnin how is this goin to help an n/a setup? and a civic? its useless dont waste ur money on it unless u got a turbo
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it will work on n/a or f/i. but i don't see a point of getting one. if you have a turbo or heavy mod, maybe yes.
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All Turbo Timers are designed to extend a turbocharger's life by allowing the engine to idle for a pre-set amount of time after the ignition key has been turned off and removed from the key cylinder. This permits the engine oil to circulate through the turbocharger bearing housing, drawing heat out of the bearings and impeller shaft to lower the temperature to a safe level before the engine is shut down. Why would you need one if you dont have a turbo???
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Originally Posted by exclusive_vtec
turbo timer shows u the psi.. and what boost ur runnin how is this goin to help an n/a setup? and a civic? its useless dont waste ur money on it unless u got a turbo
??? what are you talking about? I have the Apex'I TT.. they dont tell you how much boost you are doing.. you got it mixed up man.. all it does is lets your engine cool down..

my TT displays: A/F , 02 , Volt and the timer count down..

You dont need one unless your going turbo or have turbo.. But on the box it says for N/A or Turbo.. but they are refereing to a fully built N/A car.. i guess
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I think some HKS turbo timers dispay boost, maybe thats what he was talking about.
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I'm going to be the one guy not to jump on the flaming bandwagon.

He is really looking for a convenience part - he wants the engine to idle for a preset amount of time after the key has been taken out (and he went inside or whatever).

Yes, it will work. I have installed two personally at work. And yes, it's a great idea. I would reccommend one to anyone who has any kind of internal combustion engine. I would estimate that it would extend the life of your block by 10 to 20 thousand miles. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. You're allowing a ton of hard-used, red-hot parts to warm down rather than go from red-hot to ice cold (ignition off). That's why if anyone here has any First Aid training you would know that with a burn victim (hot coffee cup, etc.) you are supposed to run the injury under cool water, not HOT water. Same thing goes for hypothermia...

Every single pro N/A competitor uses a device like this, it's just not called a turbo timer. It's called warm-up and cool-down.
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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
I'm going to be the one guy not to jump on the flaming bandwagon.

He is really looking for a convenience part - he wants the engine to idle for a preset amount of time after the key has been taken out (and he went inside or whatever).

Yes, it will work. I have installed two personally at work. And yes, it's a great idea. I would reccommend one to anyone who has any kind of internal combustion engine. I would estimate that it would extend the life of your block by 10 to 20 thousand miles. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. You're allowing a ton of hard-used, red-hot parts to warm down rather than go from red-hot to ice cold (ignition off). That's why if anyone here has any First Aid training you would know that with a burn victim (hot coffee cup, etc.) you are supposed to run the injury under cool water, not HOT water. Same thing goes for hypothermia...

Every single pro N/A competitor uses a device like this, it's just not called a turbo timer. It's called warm-up and cool-down.


thank you..thats exactly what i was thinking.. how hard is the install of say the apex timer?
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Originally Posted by jawn_myek
thank you..thats exactly what i was thinking.. how hard is the install of say the apex timer?
it paid 2 hours, took me and a friend 1.5 the first time (second went in 45 mins)
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in all actuality, the only time you would really need to use a turbo timer is if you were pushing 35psi or more of boost and when you get out of the car and look under the hood you can look through the exhaust manifold and see the block. Thats when things are hot and need to be cooled down in a controlled manner. Shutting the car off and sudden cooling will warp metal and even crack it....at those high temps. Our cars will never even see 25 psi. Yes it's cool to have but not necessary. The turbo will probably outlive the motor and it's internals anyway. I have a GReddy Full Auto Timer but I don't think I'm gonna use it. I'm only pushing 6 psi. If you really beat on your car bad...well you may want to use it.
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in all actuality, the only time you would really need to use a turbo timer is if you were pushing 35psi or more of boost and when you get out of the car and look under the hood you can look through the exhaust manifold and see the block. Thats when things are hot and need to be cooled down in a controlled manner. Shutting the car off and sudden cooling will warp metal and even crack it....at those high temps. Our cars will never even see 25 psi. Yes it's cool to have but not necessary. The turbo will probably outlive the motor and it's internals anyway. I have a GReddy Full Auto Timer but I don't think I'm gonna use it. I'm only pushing 6 psi. If you really beat on your car bad...well you may want to use it.
step 1. drive car.
step 2. park.
step 3. open hood.

if your motor is hotter than the outside air, it's a good idea to cool it off. you're correct about the warping and cracking...doing it at our stock temps will probably never be a huge problem. but lots of little problems add up quickly.
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normal driving will make your motor hotter than the outside air. When was the last time you were outside and it was 250 degrees out? LOL.
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when i was n/a i let my car cool down all the time........it will help prolong the life of the engine.
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I say its a good idea for anyone whos interested in doing it. It does make a lot of sense.
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totally, I especially let the car warm up. Everymorning I let it idle for a godd solid 2 minutes before I give it any gas. I basically let the car do it's own warm-up and when the RPM's drop then I know it's up to temp and ready to drive.
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Ok I got a question since were on the topic. Ppl say you don't wanna let it cool for too long cuz oil might stay in the turbo and bearings if it's been idling too long right? Well since there are presets how long do you know to let it cool for 30 secs,1 min, 1 min 30 (Each time you drive your car you drive it different so its variable)? Will a couple of extra seconds matter than much for let's say preset one 45 secs to preset 2 1 min. And are there any that will shut off when the ideal temp is reached (when cooling down) either by setting manually or automated?
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Ok I got a question since were on the topic. Ppl say you don't wanna let it cool for too long cuz oil might stay in the turbo and bearings if it's been idling too long right? Well since there are presets how long do you know to let it cool for 30 secs,1 min, 1 min 30 (Each time you drive your car you drive it different so its variable)? Will a couple of extra seconds matter than much for let's say preset one 45 secs to preset 2 1 min. And are there any that will shut off when the ideal temp is reached (when cooling down) either by setting manually or automated?


ummmm............there is no set time for letting it cool down. I mean, there is no need to let it cool down for 30 min.........but oil in the bearings is what u want and no matter how long u let it cool there will be oil in the turbo.

Most timers allow u to set it for a specific minute or u can set it to shut off relative to how long u were driving..........hours wise that is.
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Originally Posted by Titleist71
normal driving will make your motor hotter than the outside air. When was the last time you were outside and it was 250 degrees out? LOL.
exactly my point. I was trying to get it through some thick heads that you need to cool your car down after every drive.

how do you think the members of the mercedes million miles club did it? certainly not by driving hard and then running inside after shutting off the car immediately.
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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
exactly my point. I was trying to get it through some thick heads that you need to cool your car down after every drive.

how do you think the members of the mercedes million miles club did it? certainly not by driving hard and then running inside after shutting off the car immediately.
What! We aren't driving race cars here buddy. HAHAHA. If you dirve the car really hard its gonna be hotter than normal driving temps. Get it? Man, you must waste alot of your time sitting in your car letting it cool down. So that's everytime? Even with normal driving? When I drive, If I go into boost several times then I let it cool down. If I don't boost at all then I just shut it off. Remember our cars aren't making 1100 whp and pushing 42 lbs of boost. LOL. Oh ya I do have a thick head.
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What! We aren't driving race cars here buddy. HAHAHA. If you dirve the car really hard its gonna be hotter than normal driving temps. Get it? Man, you must waste alot of your time sitting in your car letting it cool down. So that's everytime? Even with normal driving? When I drive, If I go into boost several times then I let it cool down. If I don't boost at all then I just shut it off. Remember our cars aren't making 1100 whp and pushing 42 lbs of boost. LOL. Oh ya I do have a thick head.
I wasn't exactly referring to you with the thick head. If you drive your car harder than usually you need to let it cool down. How long that time is, is up to you [especially if you have a turbo].

Using a turbo timer or allowing the motor to just run at idle allows the oil to run through the system a few more times...with the motor at idle that fresh oil is very cool, allowing the bearings in the turbo to cool down before shutting the car off - bringing the temperature of the turbo slowly down rather than to a screeching drop in temp. For N/A cars, it's important to let that oil run through a few more times to cool down the bearings in the motor.
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Yes...you are correct! And, it's ok to call me thick headed.......I have come to accept it. Hell, my mom even called me cold-hearted once.HAHAHAHA.
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Yes...you are correct! And, it's ok to call me thick headed.......I have come to accept it. Hell, my mom even called me cold-hearted once.HAHAHAHA.
lol. same here
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I have the Greddy Turbo Timer and can agree that it is useful for a NA setup, maybe not as much as a turbo set-up. But the logic is there, after driving your car hard you let it cool down makes perfect sense. These are engine parts rotating at hundreds of RPM, they get hot...and if your pushing your car and then you just shut it off that's not too good.
PLus the part you can find for like $50 so go for it!
And that installation isn't that hard, it's a total of about 5 wires. COnstant Power, switched power, ground, parking brake, and ignition, and speed sense if you'd like.
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I have the Greddy Turbo Timer and can agree that it is useful for a NA setup, maybe not as much as a turbo set-up. But the logic is there, after driving your car hard you let it cool down makes perfect sense. These are engine parts rotating at hundreds of RPM, they get hot...and if your pushing your car and then you just shut it off that's not too good.
PLus the part you can find for like $50 so go for it!
And that installation isn't that hard, it's a total of about 5 wires. COnstant Power, switched power, ground, parking brake, and ignition, and speed sense if you'd like.
amen.

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