E-Manage VS. VAFCII For Fuel management....
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E-Manage VS. VAFCII For Fuel management....
Ok, here's the deal guys.
My turbo kit is close to completion and I plan on running about 5-8 PSI on a T3/T04E.
My fuel system is going to be RSX Injectors, Walboro 255 pump, Aeromotive FPR, and a return fuel system.
I currently have a VAFCII, and am contemplating switching that out for an e-manage.
What do you guys think I should do?
My turbo kit is close to completion and I plan on running about 5-8 PSI on a T3/T04E.
My fuel system is going to be RSX Injectors, Walboro 255 pump, Aeromotive FPR, and a return fuel system.
I currently have a VAFCII, and am contemplating switching that out for an e-manage.
What do you guys think I should do?
Originally Posted by Hwoody77
Ok, here's the deal guys.
My turbo kit is close to completion and I plan on running about 5-8 PSI on a T3/T04E.
My fuel system is going to be RSX Injectors, Walboro 255 pump, Aeromotive FPR, and a return fuel system.
I currently have a VAFCII, and am contemplating switching that out for an e-manage.
What do you guys think I should do?
My turbo kit is close to completion and I plan on running about 5-8 PSI on a T3/T04E.
My fuel system is going to be RSX Injectors, Walboro 255 pump, Aeromotive FPR, and a return fuel system.
I currently have a VAFCII, and am contemplating switching that out for an e-manage.
What do you guys think I should do?
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Originally Posted by StreetLevelPerformance
For 5 - 8 psi just get the APEXi VAFC there is no need for the eManage.
Originally Posted by dezod
Your always down playing the E-Manage. I'd recommend it to any boosting set-up. With all of the functionality, it's one of the nicest piggyback units out there other than something like Haltech.
I want to give advice based on my true opinions and not be biased towards a product just because I can sell them.
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Originally Posted by StreetLevelPerformance
Considering his needs, the emanage is overkill. I have the emanage I see nothing wrong with it, but my goals are completely different.
I want to give advice based on my true opinions and not be biased towards a product just because I can sell them.
I want to give advice based on my true opinions and not be biased towards a product just because I can sell them.
Hold up here STREET! I am NOT trying to sell him anything.
Originally Posted by dezod
Hold up here DOBER! I am NOT trying to sell him anything.
He asked for an honest opinion, and I gave my opinion based upon what most people who have contacted me regarding this. The FACT OF THE MATTER IS....This scenario is comparing apples & oranges. The E-Manage is much more of a EMU than an FMU like the V-AFC or S-AFC. For the small price difference, why pigeon-hole yourself into something non-expandable? THAT is why I said E-Manage.
Based on his goals, the VAFC will be perfect for him and easy to set up. He's limiting himself by saying he only wants 5 - 8 psi. Sure it's apples to oranges but you have to realize his goals ARE "apples" not "oranges". If he chooses the eManage it's going to take him longer to get going with everything. He PM'd me about getting the return conversion kit right away so I figured he's eager to get going.
Hyaboosta: I did not see that he was getting RSX injectors my bad. But Hwoody, you don't need RSX injectors for 5 - 8 psi so why bother?
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Well, I'm sorry, but my goals were not made clear...
I initially plan on running 5-8 PSI, but eventually I would like a lot more boost after building my block, but that's far down the road.
The reason I ask is because I can pretty much trade my VAFC for an e-manage and just throw in a couple more dollars, but the complexity of the e-manage is kind of holding me back, that and I know a lot of shops around here that do VAFC tuning...
I got the RSX injectors for two reasons...first I got them for 25 dollars
, next they are plug and play...can 't go bad with that, plus I hate the idea of running stock injectors with boost, and I'd rather not do a half-assed fuel system like the SF kit....
SO based on this...should I just get the e-manage?
I initially plan on running 5-8 PSI, but eventually I would like a lot more boost after building my block, but that's far down the road.
The reason I ask is because I can pretty much trade my VAFC for an e-manage and just throw in a couple more dollars, but the complexity of the e-manage is kind of holding me back, that and I know a lot of shops around here that do VAFC tuning...
I got the RSX injectors for two reasons...first I got them for 25 dollars
, next they are plug and play...can 't go bad with that, plus I hate the idea of running stock injectors with boost, and I'd rather not do a half-assed fuel system like the SF kit....SO based on this...should I just get the e-manage?
Originally Posted by Hwoody77
Well, I'm sorry, but my goals were not made clear...
SO based on this...should I just get the e-manage?
SO based on this...should I just get the e-manage?
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Originally Posted by StreetLevelPerformance
It's cool you made a comment about my post so I had the right to comment on yours.
Based on his goals, the VAFC will be perfect for him and easy to set up. He's limiting himself by saying he only wants 5 - 8 psi. If he chooses the eManage it's going to take him longer to get going with everything. He PM'd me about getting the return conversion kit right away so I figured he's eager to get going.
Hyaboosta: I did not see that he was getting RSX injectors my bad. But Hwoody, you don't need RSX injectors for 5 - 8 psi so why bother?
Based on his goals, the VAFC will be perfect for him and easy to set up. He's limiting himself by saying he only wants 5 - 8 psi. If he chooses the eManage it's going to take him longer to get going with everything. He PM'd me about getting the return conversion kit right away so I figured he's eager to get going.
Hyaboosta: I did not see that he was getting RSX injectors my bad. But Hwoody, you don't need RSX injectors for 5 - 8 psi so why bother?
Don't get me wrong, it is an excellent unit, but far from adequate with respect to all of the new possible scenarios that could arise as a result of turbo charging an N/A vehicle. With regards to the RSX injectors, our stock fuel injectors are set from Honda at nearly 85% duty cycle and anymore strain on them is asking for trouble, so why not?
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Originally Posted by Hwoody77
Well, I'm sorry, but my goals were not made clear...
I initially plan on running 5-8 PSI, but eventually I would like a lot more boost after building my block, but that's far down the road.
The reason I ask is because I can pretty much trade my VAFC for an e-manage and just throw in a couple more dollars, but the complexity of the e-manage is kind of holding me back, that and I know a lot of shops around here that do VAFC tuning...
I got the RSX injectors for two reasons...first I got them for 25 dollars
, next they are plug and play...can 't go bad with that, plus I hate the idea of running stock injectors with boost, and I'd rather not do a half-assed fuel system like the SF kit....
SO based on this...should I just get the e-manage?
I initially plan on running 5-8 PSI, but eventually I would like a lot more boost after building my block, but that's far down the road.
The reason I ask is because I can pretty much trade my VAFC for an e-manage and just throw in a couple more dollars, but the complexity of the e-manage is kind of holding me back, that and I know a lot of shops around here that do VAFC tuning...
I got the RSX injectors for two reasons...first I got them for 25 dollars
, next they are plug and play...can 't go bad with that, plus I hate the idea of running stock injectors with boost, and I'd rather not do a half-assed fuel system like the SF kit....SO based on this...should I just get the e-manage?
As a matter of fact, soon we may be offering E-Manage tuning. I'll keep ya posted. Your only in NJ.....thats a 7.5 hr drive.
Originally Posted by dezod
I understand where your coming from, but don't try to take offense. From mere observation in every post I have read with respect to people boosting & using some form of FMU, you play the V-AFC as the end all to low boost settings.
Don't get me wrong, it is an excellent unit, but far from adequate with respect to all of the new possible scenarios that could arise as a result of turbo charging an N/A vehicle.
With regards to the RSX injectors, our stock fuel injectors are set from Honda at nearly 85% duty cycle and anymore strain on them is asking for trouble, so why not?
Don't get me wrong, it is an excellent unit, but far from adequate with respect to all of the new possible scenarios that could arise as a result of turbo charging an N/A vehicle. With regards to the RSX injectors, our stock fuel injectors are set from Honda at nearly 85% duty cycle and anymore strain on them is asking for trouble, so why not?
It's always a good idea to upgrade injectors but I've been running 8 psi for quite some time with the SF kit and have had no problems. Guns had his on the dyno at 11psi or so and still wasnt leaning out with stock injectors. For 8 psi and under I think we're fine with the stock injectors.
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Originally Posted by StreetLevelPerformance
No offense taken. I usually recommend the VAFC for people with the SF kit because it runs rich and it's easy to pull fuel out with it. Those must be the posts you are referring to.
It's always a good idea to upgrade injectors but I've been running 8 psi for quite some time with the SF kit and have had no problems. Guns had his on the dyno at 11psi or so and still wasnt leaning out with stock injectors. For 8 psi and under I think we're fine with the stock injectors.
It's always a good idea to upgrade injectors but I've been running 8 psi for quite some time with the SF kit and have had no problems. Guns had his on the dyno at 11psi or so and still wasnt leaning out with stock injectors. For 8 psi and under I think we're fine with the stock injectors.
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Originally Posted by StreetLevelPerformance
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Does anyone know if c2i0v0i1c is running stock injectors? He was running 13psi.
Does anyone know if c2i0v0i1c is running stock injectors? He was running 13psi.
hwoody - for the amount of boost you plan on running, i would suggest a t3 or t28 turbo so you can spool up faster cause the t3/t04e is a big turbo and your gonna have alot of lag on it and it doesnt seem worth it for that little of psi.
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Well, I got the turbo already, I have everything except for fuel management....so I should get the e-manage, should I get the Profec E along with it?
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Originally Posted by StreetLevelPerformance
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Does anyone know if c2i0v0i1c is running stock injectors? He was running 13psi.
Does anyone know if c2i0v0i1c is running stock injectors? He was running 13psi.
anyone know if a cam gear can reverse the affects of SAFC ingnition problems. I know the SAFC screws with ignition to add mroe fuel, but im wondering if an adjustable cam gear could be used to reverse these effects and make it more stable?
Any help would be appreciated
Any help would be appreciated
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