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System Install²
Sup people,
I am pissed, just got off the phone with Discount Auto Sound here in VA to get a quote on an install.
The guy told me that it would be $300 plus tax to install a Pioneer Deh-7500MP, JL-audio XR650-Cxi components, and a 4 gauge amp kit. Now I dont anything bout current install prices but I know that I dont want to pay this.
My main reason for wanting to go to them to do the install was basically because of my components. I have a buddy that just got a new Mit. Diamante and he's sellin me his Xr's for a good price. I know that I will prolly have no problem installin the amp kit and deck myself now, but i have never even really touched component speakers before. I want them amped but I have no idea on how to do this and after searchin the net for about 45mins. without any luck i figured I'd come here.
I want to know any one could point me in the right direction with a site (pref w/ pics) on how to install components and add them to an amp that you already have subs hooked to, or perhaps a quick DIY or somethin. Thanks.
I am pissed, just got off the phone with Discount Auto Sound here in VA to get a quote on an install.
The guy told me that it would be $300 plus tax to install a Pioneer Deh-7500MP, JL-audio XR650-Cxi components, and a 4 gauge amp kit. Now I dont anything bout current install prices but I know that I dont want to pay this.
My main reason for wanting to go to them to do the install was basically because of my components. I have a buddy that just got a new Mit. Diamante and he's sellin me his Xr's for a good price. I know that I will prolly have no problem installin the amp kit and deck myself now, but i have never even really touched component speakers before. I want them amped but I have no idea on how to do this and after searchin the net for about 45mins. without any luck i figured I'd come here.
I want to know any one could point me in the right direction with a site (pref w/ pics) on how to install components and add them to an amp that you already have subs hooked to, or perhaps a quick DIY or somethin. Thanks.
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pick up some EX civic coupe tweeter pods (also called sail panels). with these you can make some slight mods and mount aftermarket tweeters in them. the main tool you will need is a dremel for this. fitting the woofers in the doors will require a spacer. this will need to be at least a half inch, maybe as much as an inch. it provides seperation so the magnet of the woofer doesn't hit the window. wiring in general isn't so tough.
after reading your post again though, do you want to run both subs and components off the same amp? it can be done, but one of those things will likely be under or over powered depending on how you hook it up. you could use low pass filters on the subs, but this really would be a pain and likely you'd redo it do to the crappy sound.
the second possible meaning of what you said was that you want to use the amp currently on your subs, then maybe upgrade the wiring, put in a distribution block and connect a different (likely larger) amp to you subs. if this is the case, then you will have to do the following.
1. choose where you want to put the crossover (device that seperates high and low sounds and sends them to the proper component). it can be in the trunk, can be in the kickpanels, can be in the door, really can be anywhere these are just common locations. after you do this,
2. wire the crossover to the amp. if it is a 2 channel amp, then you wire each channel to each crossover (some crossovers have one input, others have seperate inputs for woofer and tweeter). if they have seperate inputs, you may wire them to the same channel of the amp still (both +'s go to the same + on the amp, same for -'s). if only one input the wiring is obvious. for a 4 channel amp, you can either bridge it and follow 2 channel wiring instructions or wire each component (woofer and tweeter) to a channel of the amp. use 16 gauge wire for this task.
3. run the wire for the speakers. wherever they're going, run the wire to the spot. use a coat hanger to poke the wire through the rubber part on the door. you want to make sure there's enough wire there, give it a little extra maybe so you connect everything with ease.
4. connect the speakers to the crossover. this is easy, it's just like wiring subs to the amp was. the crossover is labelled to tell you where each part goes.
5. install and connect the speakers. you've gotta have some technical ability to do this, but really it ain't that bad. there's lots of posts on installing speakers, i won't elaborate here for once.
6. make sure the RCA's you've run are hooked up to the front output of your head unit. sounds dumb, but if you use the same ones as the subs, then you may be using a non fading output or rear output. simple but kinda important thing.
7. make sure your wiring is solid. there's a lot of connections made here, and it sucks hooking up everything and then getting nothing. on the same note, a tight, clean ground + proper running of RCA's is ESSENTIAL with front speakers. you wouldn't notice with subs, but you will notice these things on front speakers if you aren't careful. note the number of posts on this subject (ground loops, alternator whine, noise, etc.).
8. make sure everything is pretty water tight. if those crossovers are in the door, you def. don't want them getting wet. thats why i kept mine in the trunk.
i gave you a lot here. but feel free to ask questions. many components are connected differently, and there are a lot of different sized ones out there too. so direct answers can be difficult. ZSKcivic01 is one guy i can think of who has these speakers installed in a coupe, so get in touch if you have specific questions on the XR's
after reading your post again though, do you want to run both subs and components off the same amp? it can be done, but one of those things will likely be under or over powered depending on how you hook it up. you could use low pass filters on the subs, but this really would be a pain and likely you'd redo it do to the crappy sound.
the second possible meaning of what you said was that you want to use the amp currently on your subs, then maybe upgrade the wiring, put in a distribution block and connect a different (likely larger) amp to you subs. if this is the case, then you will have to do the following.
1. choose where you want to put the crossover (device that seperates high and low sounds and sends them to the proper component). it can be in the trunk, can be in the kickpanels, can be in the door, really can be anywhere these are just common locations. after you do this,
2. wire the crossover to the amp. if it is a 2 channel amp, then you wire each channel to each crossover (some crossovers have one input, others have seperate inputs for woofer and tweeter). if they have seperate inputs, you may wire them to the same channel of the amp still (both +'s go to the same + on the amp, same for -'s). if only one input the wiring is obvious. for a 4 channel amp, you can either bridge it and follow 2 channel wiring instructions or wire each component (woofer and tweeter) to a channel of the amp. use 16 gauge wire for this task.
3. run the wire for the speakers. wherever they're going, run the wire to the spot. use a coat hanger to poke the wire through the rubber part on the door. you want to make sure there's enough wire there, give it a little extra maybe so you connect everything with ease.
4. connect the speakers to the crossover. this is easy, it's just like wiring subs to the amp was. the crossover is labelled to tell you where each part goes.
5. install and connect the speakers. you've gotta have some technical ability to do this, but really it ain't that bad. there's lots of posts on installing speakers, i won't elaborate here for once.
6. make sure the RCA's you've run are hooked up to the front output of your head unit. sounds dumb, but if you use the same ones as the subs, then you may be using a non fading output or rear output. simple but kinda important thing.
7. make sure your wiring is solid. there's a lot of connections made here, and it sucks hooking up everything and then getting nothing. on the same note, a tight, clean ground + proper running of RCA's is ESSENTIAL with front speakers. you wouldn't notice with subs, but you will notice these things on front speakers if you aren't careful. note the number of posts on this subject (ground loops, alternator whine, noise, etc.).
8. make sure everything is pretty water tight. if those crossovers are in the door, you def. don't want them getting wet. thats why i kept mine in the trunk.
i gave you a lot here. but feel free to ask questions. many components are connected differently, and there are a lot of different sized ones out there too. so direct answers can be difficult. ZSKcivic01 is one guy i can think of who has these speakers installed in a coupe, so get in touch if you have specific questions on the XR's
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oh geez, i wrote that to help you, but those are coaxial speakers i just realized. so that means the tweeter is on the woofer. so forget all the crap about the EX pods. this means your install is about 10x easier and less labor intensive.
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Mayn I appreciate the help but i really dont want to screw up on my components so I might just ave those prof. installed. I fell pretty comfortable installin the amp kit and the deck cuz all I have to do is pretty much run the wire in the same way that they did my 8 gauge kit when they installed it.
I have one question though, I thought that all components just plugged into the back of the deck, guess I was wrong.
I have one question though, I thought that all components just plugged into the back of the deck, guess I was wrong.
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nah you should amp them. you could run them of deck power, but they wouldn't sound like they're supposed to, and be really quiet.its HU to amp, amp to crossover, crossover to speaker. not that hard if you've done speakers.
Originally posted by draganjr
I have a 2002 Sedan EX and i want to install some tweeters, do they make pods (also called sail panels) for my car?
thanks.
I have a 2002 Sedan EX and i want to install some tweeters, do they make pods (also called sail panels) for my car?
thanks.
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I'll look and see if i can find my pictures of mine. I made a bracket that spans across the front of the woofer(mid bass driver) that i mounted the tweeter on. So it looks like a coax but its not
Yo I'm in Va also if you haven't done it try and call the discount auto sound in newport news it just a little ways over the hampton roads bridge the do a good job and there prices may be better even though there the same there install priceces are good and so is there work I'm in newport news right near fort eustice. Hit me up if u need better directions
Originally posted by DoubleDeuce2k2
nah you should amp them. you could run them of deck power, but they wouldn't sound like they're supposed to, and be really quiet.its HU to amp, amp to crossover, crossover to speaker. not that hard if you've done speakers.
nah you should amp them. you could run them of deck power, but they wouldn't sound like they're supposed to, and be really quiet.its HU to amp, amp to crossover, crossover to speaker. not that hard if you've done speakers.
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Adding tweets to the same amp will also exceed the ohm load, technically. Just run them off the deck. Mine sound fine, and they're not even aimed directly at my ears.
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I have never dealt with passive crossovers, But every electronic crossover I have wired is *NOT* done that way and will result in major failure if you even try to hook it up like that. Its HU to Xover to Amp to Speakers. There may be crossovers out there that work like what you stated, But as I said, Everyone I have seen hooks up like the way I explained
you're right about active, but his speaks don't come with elec. x-overs and i doubt he'll use one if considering running off deck power
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