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Please, serious replies only.

What i'm about to sound off on might cause conflicts w/ my fellow 7th gen civic owners(I apologize in advance) or some might MIGHT agree. So i say again, please serious post only. If you think I'm out of line, then PLEASE PROVE ME WRONG or SLAP ME BACK TO whatever reality it is....ok here goes..

1.7L, 4 cyl vtec., rated at 127 HP engine and i believe 101-110 hp to the wheels. I do not see any speed potential for this car, but just a slow *** show car, all show-no go. W/ exceptions of turbocharging and nitrous ofcourse, but thats out of the question since it is considered a major mod. For some reason yesterday (every thursday night is criusing night where i come form) I think i lost all hope of speed on my civic and just see it as an all show car. Our civics can only do so much. If you really want to make it go fast, you'll have to put alot of work and money and plus stress in the engine that will eventually give.

My friends and I always park at this huge parking lot where everybody drives by to see all the cars. It's like a car show i tell you. So, I take a step back and look at all the other people's cars and look at mine. I'm talking about civic SI and SiR, accords, preludes , evo VIII, celica GTS, nissan SER, neon SRT, eclipse GSX and GTS also GST and a whole lotta different cars in the price range of $15-$30. I look at those and then i look at my car and i'm like..aaaahhhhh . lets be realistic, civics are heLLa slow. People spend hudreds even thousands(not all at once), and the gains are like 5-10 horses. makes me wanna drive into a wall and burn the car. My car sucks!!! I didn't really have a choice on buying. I should just take out all my AfterMarket parts and just use the car like it was meant for, daily driving to get to one place to another w/out spending lotta cash for gas. This really sucks..i've spent about $900 for the wheels and tires, $130 on springs, $130 on intake, $475 on exhaust system aka noise maker total of $1,635 just to get from 16.9 stock 1/4 time to a 16.4 w/ those engine mods. that's .5 sec for $1,635. What a JOKE!!! i have alot more things to say but i'll end it here..

 
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You didn't know this before you bought the Civic? I agree it is slow but I never even thought of it as a fast car in the first place. But its a good
reliable car that looks better than any other car in its class even though it might be slower.

If you don't care about show anymore either, I wouldn't mind taking your front lip off your
hands for you

 
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ignorance is bliss, i guess true faqs slapped me really hard on the forehead..

if this keeps on bothering me in my head then all these parts will be fore sale this comming week. some parts are still new uninstalled. will sell to best offer next week if i decide strip the car. i listed the parts so i can get the idea of interested sales.
revo ss
16"rota w/ parada spec 2, month old
tanabe SRM,
typeR grill,
kaminari KTR II wing w/ carbon
brembo crossdrilled/slotted/vented rotors
typeR seats
harnesses
frankenstien intake just like injen RD
type b lip
jdm gauge cluster
nuespeed 2.25F 2R
spring camber F&R
shifter bushings

 
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cmon man dont give up hope, just give our cars a few years, parts will be cheaper, more mods will be available and we'll be goin fast in no time... but in the mean time we may be slow but we look good doin it!

 
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Ignorance or denial? Many people can't tell the difference. My argument for the Civic is that anyone can make a V6/V8 fast, but it takes a lot of brains (not to mention money) to make Civic fast. If you can achieve that than you've accomplished way more than the guy with a V8 with simple bolt-ons.

P.S.- How much did it cost to paint your front lip and where did you get it done?
Sorry if it seems like I'm asking stalking you for your lip but I really like it.

 
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you make a good point and i agree w/ you on that, but it all comes down to who'll get to the finish line first...people in the v6/v8 wont really understand how much work will go into our cars..

everything is really cheap here in s. tx. i got my lip painted for $25, had to haggle w/ the guy, originally at $35. that's including a thick clearcoat for stupid rocks..

 
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I got dibs on the type b lip. How about $175. I'll even pick it up. I dont' know where
Mc Allen is though. Damn you have a lot of good parts. I don't know how much
is a fair price for the lip. Let me know if its too low or high. Well I'm sure you're not
going to say its too high... LOL.

Damn that's pretty cheap. I thought it would have cost at least 50-70.

 
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Yeah, you spent all that money, but you only did TWO THINGS that would even remotely give you any sort of extra power. Of course you're not going to get faster.

 
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McAllen is way down south, a good 6 hours from houston.... just head towards Mexico!

 
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ur may think ur car is slow, but damn, it looks good getting there!

 
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I agree that our civics are SLOW, and it doesn't matter how much $ you put in a civic, it'll still be a civic.......and slow. But, like what our GUAMANIAN friend and TiM3 say, WE fu(<in' look good in it.

 
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Herein lies the problem for our cars. So much to do, so little money. IMO, your car looks very nice from the picture you posted. I wouldn't judge your car's performance by 1/4 mile times. IMO, 1/4 mile is pretty friggen silly. Get into autocrossn--I know someone who does it and they enjoy it a lot. Plus, you compete with cars that are similar to you, so if your car is stock, you compete against other stock cars (more or less). That would get some usage from your springs, at least.

 
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Maybe if you didnot buy your wheels, body kit, fog lights, HID lights, Racing seats, steering wheels, pedals, high tech cd/dvd player and all that **** you could be fast and put the money into some serious performance parts. To me thats where its all at, I dont give a rats *** about how good my car looks right now....so basically the reason your car looks fast, but isnt...is because of you

 
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Try turning. Then figure out how slow it is with just a couple hundred bucks of work.
There's something to be said for a FF car with a 61/39% weight split...
People driving Civic hatches and CRX's win SCCA Solo II championships. You guys are just trying to do something that isn't in the cards. The car weighs 2500 lbs... the handling machine it can be turned into far outweighs the dragster it can become with probably 3 times the money.

 
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Boilermaker said it best. Our cars were NEVER ment to be drag cars. That just doesnt seem logical. But they are fairly small and light, and the gearing isnt all that bad. You have some good springs and get some good grip with your tires so just try auto cross. I liver up here in houston and I do it the first sunday of every month and its a blast. II'm put against other vics .. and basically other cars in our class and we go for times. Its a load of fun, and its less stressful on your car, and its more about driving skill and not how much money you have. Check out http://www.houscca.com/ if you're interested, you could hit me up and we could roll up there together. Its really fun, don't part out just yet until you give it a try. Dude our cars will never be drag racers, something about ULEV that just defeats that, but they can be fun to drive, and for the money you can't go wrong with autox. But hey you could always look at it this way. Yoiu have to get a new car with 30k to spend. Camaro Z28 or a Vic with a turbo and a whole *** load of mods. The same 30k, its just how you wanna spend your money. But really, look into autox, and you can IM me at Ubergamerz if you wanna roll up there together. I do love my Vic.

~ Ben

 
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Oh and like our Purdue friend up there said, it can easially be turned into a handling machine. (I assume Purdue from the 'Boilermaker' that your name it .. sorry if I'm wrong)

 
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As boilermaker said. Try turning. A civic can do well in SCCA with a few mods. There's more to life than straightline, though apparently some people haven't figured that out.

And as for the "slow" civic.... it still holds up decently in it's class. It's still in there along with other similarly priced coupes.

 
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Exactly, look at the price range of other cars like the civic .... for what you get for the money I think the Vic is really the best choice.

 
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How do you make car fast when it wasn't meant to be? Swapping ,F/I and juice are your only opions. The engine itself is your power bottle neck. You can strip your car down to a egg creat. Who wants that?
A eco box will never be equal to a sports car out of the box. Everything is going to cost money....

 
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The engine has so many restrictions on it just because its ULEV

 
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how could u kno a civic is not slow.. its an Ultra Low Emissions Vehicle, dont give up.. if u want it to be faster juss save up 5k and go for turbo or swap in a k20 or be the first to try a b18

 
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Well duh. What were you expecting when you got this economical car?

Cvic SI/SIR- not THAT fast, but still faster than an EX and so forth for civics
Accords - family car. slow as well.
Preludes - Faster honda, but its still a honda
Evo VIII- Well ****..it was MADE to be raced/autocross/rally
Celica GTS - Faster than a civic, but not THAT fast
Nissan Se-R - made to be a pocket rocket
Neon Srt-4 - made to be domestic Rice Rocket
Eclipse GSX/GST - Turbo'd 4-banger (same basic engine as Evo VIII)

What did you expect again? Civics weren't made for that.

Like it was said before, if money wasnt spent on show...it'd be faster. NO ICE, NO Interior, NO wings, NO bodykit, etc. More money to be spent on an engine...K20

If your parents bought you the car, then quit complaining.



$900 on wheels that may or may not be heavier than OEM, but at least you got tire that can stick to the ground better than those Shittystones.

You only have to "performance" mods.
Intake + Exhaust = $605.

knocking half a second off your car is actually pretty good. what'd you expect? 3 or 4 seconds off of your 1/4 mile?

 
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you have a nice looking car!!
Look at it this way, if you and all those car drive for about 3 hours hard, you'll be the one who finishes, because all those car's engince might give up or run out of fuel before your 4 banger ULEV does, haha!!

 
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at least you're not complaining about the rattles, hahahaha!!

 
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civic are never meant for drag, go autox and be comparable with other cars in same class, and feel the joy when beating someone which have a better car than you, e.x. (3 modded typeR and some rsx and rsxS) ^.^

 
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Our cars suck. When I look at my car I like it. But when I take it on the road and can't keep up with anything on the road, it sucks. I step hard on the pedal and it makes a big sound but I don't go anywhere. Before I bought my car I knew nothing about cars. I didn't even know what horsepower was. If I had to do it all over again, I definitely would have gotten something in the Type S price range. I thought it would cool to be saving the money I saved from buying the vic, but now I don't think it was worth it.

 
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civics arnt ment to be fast...i mean look at the gas millage i think its like 30 highway and like 28 city? but yea dont give up hope....civics usually have lots of potential for swaps and turbos

 
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I don't know what you consider fast but you got ****ed buying a FWD Honda for straight-line performance... especially a new one.

However there are still ways to get around it, but even if you do it's not cheap to fix up a 4-cylinder as everyone's pointed out.

At least the D17 makes more torque from boost than a D16.

Yeah, it'll always be a Civic unless you got skrill. But I think as time goes by they become better little by little.

Yes...

Try turning. It's amazing what sleeved coilovers ($250) + a 22mm bar ($100) and good rubber ($400 for 15s) will do.

 
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VTEC, y0! j/k

 
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Yes. . you were dramatically misinformed if you thought that horsepower came stock, or cheap with Civics except for US Si models... I'm sorry for that . You're right though. . Unless you dump some serious cash, the car is all show and no go. It's up to you how you want to deal with it, drive it as a daily driver, fix it to be quicker, or just make it look good. It's up to you, but your really preaching to the choir here, we all know how you feel.