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Old Jan 19, 2005
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Fuel Option For Turbo

Im still a little confused with the fuel option for a turbo set up so bare with me, im still learning. When setting up a new fuel system for our cars when we get a turbo, well need a fuel pump and fuel pressure regulator, Injectors that fit our fuel rail, and something to control it all, im guessing that would be the e-manage right?

what else would i need for the fuel set up to get the car running fine and tuned properly for a turbo daily driver?

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that is the expensive way.......with a upgraded in-tank pump and fpr........you also need to convert to a return fuel set-up.

The best thing to do on a budget is type s injectors, and a e-manage.
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the most reliable way to do it would be a aem fuel rail. then use adj fuel pressure regulator.
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^^^^^ ummm..........no
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
that is the expensive way.......with a upgraded in-tank pump and fpr........you also need to convert to a return fuel set-up.

The best thing to do on a budget is type s injectors, and a e-manage.
hummm so your saying that with a turbo set up we will not need new in-tank and FPR! because i just purchased my emannage on the weekend! and i was wondering what to do with the fuel set-up
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Originally Posted by 18inchpride
hummm so your saying that with a turbo set up we will not need new in-tank and FPR! because i just purchased my emannage on the weekend! and i was wondering what to do with the fuel set-up

no you don't....... granted, in due time the stock in-tank pump will take a **** from the extra stress that is placed upon it. If you got the money, then convert to a return fuel-set up. This consists of installing a in-tank pump, fpr, modifying the fuel rail and running lines back to the tank from the fuel rail.

SLP has a great return fuel conversion kit that is completely "bolt-on" and comes with great instructions.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
The best thing to do on a budget is type s injectors, and a e-manage.
so all i need to do is get type s injectors, e manage, and fuel pump?

when using the e manage, does it adjust the amount of fuel being dumped into the engine by how much boost ur running?
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it dont automatically do anything, u have to tell it what to do
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well yeah ur gonna tune it, and its gonna be set to that, but will the e manage take care of all the fuel issues when getting a turbo?
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Originally Posted by KalliGarri
so all i need to do is get type s injectors, e manage, and fuel pump?

when using the e manage, does it adjust the amount of fuel being dumped into the engine by how much boost ur running?

you are not listening......i said that you do not need a pump......if you install one, then you will need a fpr which then you will have to convert to a return.

Yes the emanage will adjust the fuel according to boost if you get the pressure sensor and harness.......but you need to get it street tuned with a wideband and then fine tuned on the dyno to ensure that you get the most power and most importantly.......don't blow your motor.
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very well said civic01vtec
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alright so no fuel pump, lets take that out the picture, lets say i get type s injectors, and e-manage... is that all ill need to make sure it runs fine (after tuning).. im juss worried the injectors wont get enough fuel delivered to them, thats why i was asking about the fuel pump. So just by geting injectors and e manage, will it work fine?
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Originally Posted by KalliGarri
alright so no fuel pump, lets take that out the picture, lets say i get type s injectors, and e-manage... is that all ill need to make sure it runs fine (after tuning).. im juss worried the injectors wont get enough fuel delivered to them, thats why i was asking about the fuel pump. So just by geting injectors and e manage, will it work fine?
How much boost are you planning on running? What is your target goal? Desired HP? Size turbo? These questions must be answered by you before making any more decisions as far as what to do. Also what is your budget like?

i.e.-If your planning on only driving it daily, never seeing a track and never seeing boost over 6 PSI.....RSX injectors and E-Manage are the way to go. Cheap, reliable, proven to withstand the test.

i.e.-If you planning on driving daily, seeing the track, boosting in future to 10-15 PSI.....RSX injectors, return system, E-Manage....More money, but preparing for the big time.
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thanks you answered my question, i was lookin at 5-6-7 psi
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if u wanna boost high get the slp fuel return kit and then a better fuel pump, injectors, fpr etc.
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i have a question too.. in order to have a fpr you HAVE to convert to return style? Or can that work with returnless? does the fpr not work unless there is a return line?
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the most reliable and safest way to do a fuel system on our car for a turbo is the upgrade fuel pump, fuel rail, injectors, fpr. some may say no as someone already did. this will allow you to tune very easily will not have you worrying about running max injector duty cycle and give you some room to upgrade (eg more boost). any reputable shop that has done extensive tuning and turbo setups will tell you that.
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Originally Posted by b18c1boy
the most reliable and safest way to do a fuel system on our car for a turbo is the upgrade fuel pump, fuel rail, injectors, fpr. some may say no as someone already did. this will allow you to tune very easily will not have you worrying about running max injector duty cycle and give you some room to upgrade (eg more boost). any reputable shop that has done extensive tuning and turbo setups will tell you that.
The AEM fuel rail cant be done cause they dont make one for our cars is what he was trying to say!
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Originally Posted by XSRCivic
i have a question too.. in order to have a fpr you HAVE to convert to return style? Or can that work with returnless? does the fpr not work unless there is a return line?

Conventional FPRs "pinch" the return line to increase pressure so yes........and no because Barry Grant recently released an inline pump/FPR combo that is supposed to enable returnless systems to have adjustability. I haven't used it though.
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hmm good info to know. i'll do some research. thanks

Originally Posted by Drk01Civic
Conventional FPRs "pinch" the return line to increase pressure so yes........and no because Barry Grant recently released an inline pump/FPR combo that is supposed to enable returnless systems to have adjustability. I haven't used it though.

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i got a question too!!!...hehe...so if i want to run 13 psi on a dezod motorsports turbo..and buy a slp returnless fuel kit..i wouldnt have to buy rsx injectors or newinjectors??? and doing the slp kit ,greddy profec e01 will , and dyno will take care of my fuel problem to run 13 psi??? =D
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Originally Posted by d17lpower03
i got a question too!!!...hehe...so if i want to run 13 psi on a dezod motorsports turbo..and buy a slp returnless fuel kit..i wouldnt have to buy rsx injectors or newinjectors??? and doing the slp kit ,greddy profec e01 will , and dyno will take care of my fuel problem to run 13 psi??? =D
I THINK if you do the math the stock injectors wont be large enough for that kind of PSI. Im guessing 13pis would = 250hp ISH ! and im pretty sure it would need larger injectors to fuel that kind of HP
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
The AEM fuel rail cant be done cause they dont make one for our cars is what he was trying to say!


part # is 25-112 call aem. its available. there is one sitting on the shelf at my local speedshop right now i believe. p.s add r for red. b for blue.
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Originally Posted by b18c1boy
part # is 25-112 call aem. its available. there is one sitting on the shelf at my local speedshop right now i believe. p.s add r for red. b for blue.
It must be VERY recent release then
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Oh, and to use a FPR along with the rail it will have to be converted to a return style system. Unless you know of a new adjustable FPR for replacing the one in tank. IMO a new fuel rail wouldnt improve performance anyway
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
Oh, and to use a FPR along with the rail it will have to be converted to a return style system. Unless you know of a new adjustable FPR for replacing the one in tank. IMO a new fuel rail wouldnt improve performance anyway
you think? the whole thread started with talking about converting to return type system.
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
It must be VERY recent release then

im looking at the aempower.com site adn its TBA....how often do they update their websites???
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Originally Posted by b18c1boy
you think? the whole thread started with talking about converting to return type system.
What part? the part about having to convert to a return style? Yes. Or the part about the new fuel rail improving performance? Im serious yes, i dont think it will improve performance AT ALL unless your talking about TRYING to push HUGE HP numbers that most know isnt possible or at least practical
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