Best upgrade for a T3?
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Best upgrade for a T3?
Hi, the turbo that came with my SF kit (T3 super 60) is still suffering from the oil problem 
I was thinking in case if I get myself another turbo, what are the possible choices, that would bolt on directly to the current setup (manifold & downpipe) ??? If I am spending money I can spend a lil extra to get something better.
In my little research I came across the Garrett GT-30R. Would this be a direct replacement for a T3? Any other suggestion? Thankx
I was thinking in case if I get myself another turbo, what are the possible choices, that would bolt on directly to the current setup (manifold & downpipe) ??? If I am spending money I can spend a lil extra to get something better.
In my little research I came across the Garrett GT-30R. Would this be a direct replacement for a T3? Any other suggestion? Thankx
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Originally Posted by Ahtasham
Hi, the turbo that came with my SF kit (T3 super 60) is still suffering from the oil problem
I was thinking in case if I get myself another turbo, what are the possible choices, that would bolt on directly to the current setup (manifold & downpipe) ??? If I am spending money I can spend a lil extra to get something better.
In my little research I came across the Garrett GT-30R. Would this be a direct replacement for a T3? Any other suggestion? Thankx
I was thinking in case if I get myself another turbo, what are the possible choices, that would bolt on directly to the current setup (manifold & downpipe) ??? If I am spending money I can spend a lil extra to get something better.
In my little research I came across the Garrett GT-30R. Would this be a direct replacement for a T3? Any other suggestion? Thankx
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Garrett GT30R Dual Ball-Bearing Turbos
Supports up to 500 hp! Dual ball bearings allow for higher efficiency and much faster spool up. Compressor: 76.2 mm, 56 Trim, 0.60 A/R. T3 style turbine. An excellent high-power bolt-on upgrade for any T3 turbo. More power and less lag at a higher efficiency than a T3/T4 hybrid turbo.
(Reference: http://www.turbocalculator.com/view-...ct=002-001-007 )
Garrett GT30R Dual Ball-Bearing Turbos
Supports up to 500 hp! Dual ball bearings allow for higher efficiency and much faster spool up. Compressor: 76.2 mm, 56 Trim, 0.60 A/R. T3 style turbine. An excellent high-power bolt-on upgrade for any T3 turbo. More power and less lag at a higher efficiency than a T3/T4 hybrid turbo.
(Reference: http://www.turbocalculator.com/view-...ct=002-001-007 )
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i second that t3/t4 hybrid too much lag
Originally Posted by Ahtasham
What do you have to say about this:
Garrett GT30R Dual Ball-Bearing Turbos
Supports up to 500 hp! Dual ball bearings allow for higher efficiency and much faster spool up. Compressor: 76.2 mm, 56 Trim, 0.60 A/R. T3 style turbine. An excellent high-power bolt-on upgrade for any T3 turbo. More power and less lag at a higher efficiency than a T3/T4 hybrid turbo.
(Reference: http://www.turbocalculator.com/view-...ct=002-001-007 )
Garrett GT30R Dual Ball-Bearing Turbos
Supports up to 500 hp! Dual ball bearings allow for higher efficiency and much faster spool up. Compressor: 76.2 mm, 56 Trim, 0.60 A/R. T3 style turbine. An excellent high-power bolt-on upgrade for any T3 turbo. More power and less lag at a higher efficiency than a T3/T4 hybrid turbo.
(Reference: http://www.turbocalculator.com/view-...ct=002-001-007 )
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Rep Power: 0 well yea but in general a t3/t4 hybrid is not going to spool as fast as a t25BB or a KKK03 even though no one is their right mind is going to ever buy a KKK03 for a honda...i dont even think it would fit, but yea your right its all relevant on the application
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Originally Posted by ArtIntown11
well yea but in general a t3/t4 hybrid is not going to spool as fast as a t25BB....
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Rep Power: 0 lol yup.....thats the thing with turbos....do you want power at a constant stream even though it wont be that powerful or do you want a rush of peak power....again depends on the application, on the street i would want a t25BB but on a high speed track thats when that hybrid comes in super handy
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Originally Posted by ArtIntown11
lol yup.....thats the thing with turbos....do you want power at a constant stream even though it wont be that powerful or do you want a rush of peak power....again depends on the application, on the street i would want a t25BB but on a high speed track thats when that hybrid comes in super handy
All depends on where you want power band placed. That T25 power maxs out at circa 4000 RPMS.....The T3/T04 will begin power there....Not to mention 95% of your honda racing is done at RPMS higher than 4000 RPMS.....we all know hondas can't move from a dig..............in comparison to say a 5.0 Stang.
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Rep Power: 0 Yup just like i said, my friend used to a have a 5.0 moderate work done it, crazy whiplash effect. Tell you the truth if i could have any moderatly priced car now...it would be the lotus elise. If only it ran on a honda engine instead of a toyota....i dread toyota....but i respect them
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Originally Posted by ArtIntown11
Yup just like i said, my friend used to a have a 5.0 moderate work done it, crazy whiplash effect. Tell you the truth if i could have any moderatly priced car now...it would be the lotus elise. If only it ran on a honda engine instead of a toyota....i dread toyota....but i respect them
I also know many of people that have had older Toyotas and for 120-150K miles......No major problems.
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Originally Posted by ArtIntown11
Yup just like i said, my friend used to a have a 5.0 moderate work done it, crazy whiplash effect....
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Originally Posted by dezod
TRUE! But a hair dryer T25BB @ 8 PSI is not going to put out nearly the power a T3/T04 E would on 8 PSI.
Agreed. However, 8psi is 8psi. Doesn't matter what turbo its coming from.
Its all about efficiency.
Originally Posted by 4drcivic2k1
Agreed. However, 8psi is 8psi. Doesn't matter what turbo its coming from.
Its all about efficiency.
Its all about efficiency.
Couldn't be more wrong. A bigger turbo presses MORE air into the engine at 8psi. A smaller turbo will press less air into the engine at 8psi.
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Originally Posted by Gotti
Couldn't be more wrong. A bigger turbo presses MORE air into the engine at 8psi. A smaller turbo will press less air into the engine at 8psi.
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Rep Power: 0 Ok, lets look at this from a mathematical standpoint.
Airflow through an engine takes no note of turbo size. Only pressure.
Airflow rate=(CID*RPM*.5*Ev)/1728
Say we have a 2.0L engine. 122 Cubic inches.
122*5000*.5*(say 80% effieciency)/1728=141CFM.
Say we are running one bar of boost.
Airflow rate = pressure ratio * NA cfm
2.0*141=282CFM under 1 bar of boost.
Where in there is what size turbo to determine what "pushes" the air through? It doesn't "push" it simply creates pressure in the manifold.
Airflow through an engine takes no note of turbo size. Only pressure.
Airflow rate=(CID*RPM*.5*Ev)/1728
Say we have a 2.0L engine. 122 Cubic inches.
122*5000*.5*(say 80% effieciency)/1728=141CFM.
Say we are running one bar of boost.
Airflow rate = pressure ratio * NA cfm
2.0*141=282CFM under 1 bar of boost.
Where in there is what size turbo to determine what "pushes" the air through? It doesn't "push" it simply creates pressure in the manifold.
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