turboing D17A2
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turboing D17A2
I am turboing my 03 ex and just have some questions.
1. How many cc's are the stock injectors and what would be a good size to get for 6-7 psi?
2. Has anyone had any experience with a map unit called "Missing Link" that keeps the ecu from detecting boost? "Missing Link" MAP unit
3. Does anyone know where I can get some information about converting from a returnless fuel system to returnable? I've seen it but don't know how it was done.
4. Will injectors from a b series work in d17?
5. Will an SAFC-II, bigger injectors, and the map unit keep my engine running well at 6-7 psi? I want the engine to last a long time. Detonation is bad!!!!
1. How many cc's are the stock injectors and what would be a good size to get for 6-7 psi?
2. Has anyone had any experience with a map unit called "Missing Link" that keeps the ecu from detecting boost? "Missing Link" MAP unit
3. Does anyone know where I can get some information about converting from a returnless fuel system to returnable? I've seen it but don't know how it was done.
4. Will injectors from a b series work in d17?
5. Will an SAFC-II, bigger injectors, and the map unit keep my engine running well at 6-7 psi? I want the engine to last a long time. Detonation is bad!!!!
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The vendor streetlevelperformance on this site is selling return conversion fuel kits I believe. Good tuning for turbo would be the greddy e-manage. Alot of boosted guys also use this thing to send the ecu a fake signal so that the tuning can actually work without the ecu resetting everything.
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Rep Power: 287 im not sure about the stock injector size, but i along with other countless poeple r running 9 psi off the so there's no need to upgrade.
b-series injectors will not work but the k series will but u have to modify your rail a lil cuz there longer.
what do you wanna know about converting the fuel lines i have one
as long as u tune everything properly you shouldnt have any engine problems. with our cars its all about tuning!!!!
btw: my kits for sale...
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=173761
b-series injectors will not work but the k series will but u have to modify your rail a lil cuz there longer.
what do you wanna know about converting the fuel lines i have one
as long as u tune everything properly you shouldnt have any engine problems. with our cars its all about tuning!!!!
btw: my kits for sale...
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=173761
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Rep Power: 606 1) stock injectors are 240cc
2) Everyone uses the ML........welcome the world of boost
3) returnless fuel system.........search ........if you want a compete bolt on kit, then contact jeff at www.streetlevelperformance.com
4) injectors from a b series motor will not work.......but rsx-s injectors will fit, they are rated at 340cc
5) stay away from a safc as it has been shown to advance the ignition timing. Get the e-manange and harnesses to get the best out of your motor.
2) Everyone uses the ML........welcome the world of boost
3) returnless fuel system.........search ........if you want a compete bolt on kit, then contact jeff at www.streetlevelperformance.com
4) injectors from a b series motor will not work.......but rsx-s injectors will fit, they are rated at 340cc
5) stay away from a safc as it has been shown to advance the ignition timing. Get the e-manange and harnesses to get the best out of your motor.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
5) stay away from a safc as it has been shown to advance the ignition timing. Get the e-manange and harnesses to get the best out of your motor.
Does the E-Manage have the Vtec controller?
I want to do the Vtec head swap and I see there is a diy
using the vafc, now, if I dont use that, what will controll the
Vtec?
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Originally Posted by GLi4dr
Thats okay, I don`t want it for i-Vtec...Just for the Vtec on the
D17a...
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D17a...
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it works, but nobody on here got it to work correctly
btw, a vtec head swap on a sohc motor is a waste of money IMO.........that money could be better off spent on pistons and rods.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
it works, but nobody on here got it to work correctly
btw, a vtec head swap on a sohc motor is a waste of money IMO.........that money could be better off spent on pistons and rods.
btw, a vtec head swap on a sohc motor is a waste of money IMO.........that money could be better off spent on pistons and rods.
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Originally Posted by 4drcivic2k1
That is incorrect. Only one intake valve is affected when vtec is engaged.
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Originally Posted by guns
For some damn reason my EX turbo kills my budies LX turbo. PSI for PSI both with t3 turbos. There is something there. Dont realy understand why. There just is a difference. VTEC opens the exhaust valves a little more.
I cant get the civic in Vtec here in oz, only this gay looking 5 door hatch comes with the d17a2, thats why I want to do the swap. I have read that the Vtec kicks harder when you do the head swap.
So basically any computer system that changes Vtec can be used to do the head swap, yeah??
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Originally Posted by RiceBurnrEX
4drcivic2k1 is right. I just looked in my service manual to double check. VTEC only messes with the intake on the D17's.
vtec lifts only the intake valves on all honda motors
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Originally Posted by bradmanuwf
Should I get saturated injectors or peak and hold injectors for turboing my 03 civic? Do you think 310cc or 370cc would be good size?
hmmm........90% of all cars are using sat injectors
unless you are gonna have very high fuel pressure (around 100psi) then i suggest sat injectors.
Most ppl, including myself are using rsx-s injectors which are 340's but have been flow tested around 320 or so.
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Rep Power: 0 I Have RSX-S Injectors there was no need to modify the fuel rail. And the K20A3 (Base rsx) have 270cc injectors and the K20A2 (RSX type S) have 310cc or something like that.
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Originally Posted by bradmanuwf
are rsx(k20) and rsx-s(k20a) injectors the same size? I've been told you have to modify the fuel rail, how so?
you will need longer bolts and spacers, since the type s injectors are longer
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
vtec lifts only the intake valves on all honda motors
That is also incorrect. On a DOHC VTEC b series both sets of valves are actuated.
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Originally Posted by bradmanuwf
are rsx(k20) and rsx-s(k20a) injectors the same size? I've been told you have to modify the fuel rail, how so?
RSX and RSX-S are a little bigger.. around 320 or so, if i'm not mistaken.. (opto isolator (thank the lord for this guy) had them flow tested and everything so pm him if you need more info)
I go to UWF too.. maybe i'll see you out there soon.
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Rep Power: 0 nice info guys thank you , I hope to be boosted here soon as well if not for Dezod then any of the guys selling the SF kits, but can't wait! I just hate hearing from so many that boosting my car isn't worth it, forget that, if its what I can do I will, thanks guys, laters...
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
vtec lifts only the intake valves on all honda motors
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Originally Posted by bradmanuwf
this thread was not for talking about VTEC. it was for talking about turboing the d17.
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