A New HICUP to stump the panel. RSX Injectors + boosted Civic + Missing Link=CEL....
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,857
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Rep Power: 326 
So Dezod you disabled the correction feature? Greddy said we should have that disabled anyway, I know they don't help us to much but maybe they knew that already? Either way good luck.
Registered!!
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,024
Likes: 1
From: Zulu Alpha Tango Foxtrot
Rep Power: 312 Something else to try. First thing - you need to know exactly what code your ECU is throwing. There are 3 different codes related to the barometric pressure sensor (P1106, P1107, and P1108). The first one is a general error, if something is wrong altogether. P1107 is the voltage from the MAP sensor is too low, P1108 is that the voltage is too high.
If you find out what specific code your car is throwing - that way we can determine what exactly is causing the problem. If its P1106 - well, lets just hope its not - because the other too would be easier to diagnose (either the ML isn't working, causing the MAP voltage to be too high, the airflow adjustment map is causing the MAP voltage to be too low).
If you find out what specific code your car is throwing - that way we can determine what exactly is causing the problem. If its P1106 - well, lets just hope its not - because the other too would be easier to diagnose (either the ML isn't working, causing the MAP voltage to be too high, the airflow adjustment map is causing the MAP voltage to be too low).
Thread Starter
7thgen Power Maker
iTrader: (74)
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,048
Likes: 1
From: Buffalo, NY, US
Rep Power: 0 
Originally Posted by opto_isolator
Something else to try. First thing - you need to know exactly what code your ECU is throwing. There are 3 different codes related to the barometric pressure sensor (P1106, P1107, and P1108). The first one is a general error, if something is wrong altogether. P1107 is the voltage from the MAP sensor is too low, P1108 is that the voltage is too high.
If you find out what specific code your car is throwing - that way we can determine what exactly is causing the problem. If its P1106 - well, lets just hope its not - because the other too would be easier to diagnose (either the ML isn't working, causing the MAP voltage to be too high, the airflow adjustment map is causing the MAP voltage to be too low).
If you find out what specific code your car is throwing - that way we can determine what exactly is causing the problem. If its P1106 - well, lets just hope its not - because the other too would be easier to diagnose (either the ML isn't working, causing the MAP voltage to be too high, the airflow adjustment map is causing the MAP voltage to be too low).
Registered!!
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,024
Likes: 1
From: Zulu Alpha Tango Foxtrot
Rep Power: 312
Originally Posted by dezod
Sad to say, P1106. Pulled the code last night.
"Barometric pressure circuit problem "
Everyone else:
"Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor circuit intermittent high voltage"
I'm not 100% sure if they mean the same thing (hell - if its OBDII it should, technically), BUT - if it says that the MAP voltage is too high than your MAP sensor is seeing boost.
Is the code only being thrown when you go into boost or what? If so - try using the electronic boost clamp feature of the emanage to see if it fixes it!
Thread Starter
7thgen Power Maker
iTrader: (74)
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,048
Likes: 1
From: Buffalo, NY, US
Rep Power: 0 Actually it would kick on when driving in Vaccuum. WEIRD!
Originally Posted by opto_isolator
Ok - to elaborate on my previous post. I've found that Honda / Acura have a different description of P1106 vs everyone else. P1106 for Honda says:
"Barometric pressure circuit problem "
Everyone else:
"Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor circuit intermittent high voltage"
I'm not 100% sure if they mean the same thing (hell - if its OBDII it should, technically), BUT - if it says that the MAP voltage is too high than your MAP sensor is seeing boost.
Is the code only being thrown when you go into boost or what? If so - try using the electronic boost clamp feature of the emanage to see if it fixes it!
"Barometric pressure circuit problem "
Everyone else:
"Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor circuit intermittent high voltage"
I'm not 100% sure if they mean the same thing (hell - if its OBDII it should, technically), BUT - if it says that the MAP voltage is too high than your MAP sensor is seeing boost.
Is the code only being thrown when you go into boost or what? If so - try using the electronic boost clamp feature of the emanage to see if it fixes it!
Registered!!
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0 
Wondering why your using the missing link and the emange? The emange has the ability to limit the output voltage that the ECU will see for the map sensor. The Emanage actually needs to see positive pressures (higher voltage than 1 Bar) to adjust fuel correctly in the + 1 bar fuel tables. This may be a part of the problem. I know several with the Greddy 19T kit with the emanage and if they put a missinglink on they'll throw a code 13..Baro. Not sure exactly how yours is configured though.
Thread Starter
7thgen Power Maker
iTrader: (74)
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,048
Likes: 1
From: Buffalo, NY, US
Rep Power: 0
Originally Posted by 98CivicEXT
Wondering why your using the missing link and the emange? The emange has the ability to limit the output voltage that the ECU will see for the map sensor. The Emanage actually needs to see positive pressures (higher voltage than 1 Bar) to adjust fuel correctly in the + 1 bar fuel tables. This may be a part of the problem. I know several with the Greddy 19T kit with the emanage and if they put a missinglink on they'll throw a code 13..Baro. Not sure exactly how yours is configured though.
Thread Starter
7thgen Power Maker
iTrader: (74)
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,048
Likes: 1
From: Buffalo, NY, US
Rep Power: 0
Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
what change did you make to it to not throw the cell?
what psi are you running? cause spdrcrchk is running 8 with no missing link and her rsx injectors are running dam good. I got a ride in that beast and it does pull. I think it may be the emanage. because she is also not running it. She is using a VAFC
Thread Starter
7thgen Power Maker
iTrader: (74)
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,048
Likes: 1
From: Buffalo, NY, US
Rep Power: 0
Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
what psi are you running? cause spdrcrchk is running 8 with no missing link and her rsx injectors are running dam good. I got a ride in that beast and it does pull. I think it may be the emanage. because she is also not running it. She is using a VAFC
Registered!!
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0 The Greddy pressure sensor simply adds another basis for your fuel maps in the E-manage. Looks like the emanage is sending to many volts to the ecu. 96-98 civic the magic number is 2.9volts. 99-2000 is 3.3volts. Not sure about 2001+. May want to do like the afc-hack and run some 440 cc injectors and try that out with more boost.
How do you have the injector wires hooked up btw? Emanage is kind of new to me, I've used the AFC, Elink's Turbo2Link box and the AEM EMS. Trying to figure out how the injector drivers are supposed to function. Logicly, you would think once the Emanage reads over 0psi, it would limit the voltage to the stock ecu and use it's own maps to drive the injectors. Something is making me think that's not the case and it's using the ECU to drive the injectors by fooling the ecu map sensor like with the hack.
How do you have the injector wires hooked up btw? Emanage is kind of new to me, I've used the AFC, Elink's Turbo2Link box and the AEM EMS. Trying to figure out how the injector drivers are supposed to function. Logicly, you would think once the Emanage reads over 0psi, it would limit the voltage to the stock ecu and use it's own maps to drive the injectors. Something is making me think that's not the case and it's using the ECU to drive the injectors by fooling the ecu map sensor like with the hack.
Thread Starter
7thgen Power Maker
iTrader: (74)
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,048
Likes: 1
From: Buffalo, NY, US
Rep Power: 0
Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
Prob. because the map doesn't see boost til about 8ish. so right now your not even using the missing link really.
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,857
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Rep Power: 326
Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
I wonder how speedracer and yvette have been able to run 8psi without the map detecting boost? and no missing link?
My synapse missing link did get rid of the issue, I could just never get the alcohol to work right, I think due to a bad jet. It worked fine for a while, then I had boost cutout. I got the missing link, and since then the alcohol hasn't worked, but no more cut.
I am running stock injectors with the emanage. No voltage clamp, because of the synapse unit. I don't think you're supposed to run both but I dont see how it would hurt.
So yeah, you can run 8psi with out a missing link. But Yvette has a missing link now (or at least I know she ordered one).
Registered!!
iTrader: (13)
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,040
Likes: 0
From: Newark, New Jersey, US
Rep Power: 0 
...
I think I found the solution...read this thread....
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=945417
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=945417
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 3,857
Likes: 0
From: Arizona
Rep Power: 326
Originally Posted by Hwoody77
I think I found the solution...read this thread....
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=945417
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=945417
. 
Registered!!
iTrader: (8)
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 3,024
Likes: 1
From: Zulu Alpha Tango Foxtrot
Rep Power: 312
Originally Posted by Hwoody77
I think I found the solution...read this thread....
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=945417
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=945417
Thread Starter
7thgen Power Maker
iTrader: (74)
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,048
Likes: 1
From: Buffalo, NY, US
Rep Power: 0
Originally Posted by MadWheel
HOLY SH*T i think you did!!! That's why Greddy told us not to use the injector adjustment feature. Just gotta do some math and plug the new numbers in. Dezod get on this!
