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I paid $75 for these used RSX injectors, and when I get them, the o-rings have sand on them, and one of the ends where the fuel sprays out is cracked, about to fall off!
Can I still use them, if I clean them & snap off this broken piece?
Can I still use them, if I clean them & snap off this broken piece?
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Good place to get injectors cleaned & flow tested:
http://www.cruzinperformance.com/
Rich is a honest and nice guy! Very professional and highly recommend.
http://www.cruzinperformance.com/
Rich is a honest and nice guy! Very professional and highly recommend.
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Originally Posted by Canadian2k1SI
Taht would be fine, but did you see the cracked piece on the end of one of em? I am wondering if that might mess my stuff up?
So how are those rsx injectors better than stock?
And how safe is it too use another route than a returnless fuel system made by SLP..
Like what are the other optinos
Cause i hear SLP's kit will be REALLY expensive....all top of the line parts...eh too much for me
And how safe is it too use another route than a returnless fuel system made by SLP..
Like what are the other optinos
Cause i hear SLP's kit will be REALLY expensive....all top of the line parts...eh too much for me
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Modified OEM Fuel Rail, Boost Referencing FPR, Fuel Pump, ALL lines, ALL fittings, ALL clamps, and best of all a detailed DIY with pictures.
About 98% bolt-on with the fuel pump cage modification and mounting of the FPR to the fire wall being the only exceptions.
This kit will not be comprised of Carquest parts. Each part will be hand-picked from the best of the best.
About 98% bolt-on with the fuel pump cage modification and mounting of the FPR to the fire wall being the only exceptions.
This kit will not be comprised of Carquest parts. Each part will be hand-picked from the best of the best.
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Originally Posted by opto_isolator
They are a direct replacement. The only modification that is necessary is the mounting studs on the intake manifold spacer plate.......
I was going to put those RSX ones in my car today, and test the E-manage injector size option, but what exactly needs to be modified on those mounting studs. Do they have to be removed & larger ones installed? If so, hou much larger, and do you know what type of stud to use (side, dimentions, thread, etc.)
I have time to do this today, if I can find out what exactly needs to be modified.
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I installed my RSX Injectors today;
Had to replace the fual rail stud with a bolt instead, I used a Metric (I am Canadian!) bolt 30mm, M6x10, and 2 washers because the RSX injectors are about 0.75In longer that the Stock Civic ones.
It was easy, and I set my E-manage at 240 Old & 340 New Injectors, what did other people use. This worked great, but I didn't try any other settings.
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Done & Done.
Had to replace the fual rail stud with a bolt instead, I used a Metric (I am Canadian!) bolt 30mm, M6x10, and 2 washers because the RSX injectors are about 0.75In longer that the Stock Civic ones.
It was easy, and I set my E-manage at 240 Old & 340 New Injectors, what did other people use. This worked great, but I didn't try any other settings.
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Done & Done.
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Rep Power: 0 Anybody having problems with these RSX injectors like me? My car ocassionally misses the idle point when the RPM's fall back (clutch in) and goes off! And also sometimes bogs down if I give it too much gas and not enough clutch engagement on launches.
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Rep Power: 0 ^^Mine has that similar problem, low rpms (below 2K) when im idleing or in 1st and am at a roll it will kind of sputter, but throughout the rpm range isnt bad, get emanage, it'll clear it up, for my starts id rev up to 1500 with the clutch and slowly release so it wasnt as bad, once the rpms picked up
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Originally Posted by canadian2k1si
Well I have Emanage, but not tuned. I need a tuner.
Heh - I'm having idle problems in general....I think its just the nature of OBDII. I try to play around with it in the emanage, and it idles fine when the car is running that time, but when I go to start it another time, it idles like crap until it "learns" again....not sure why - but I am trying to figure it out....
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Originally Posted by opto_isolator
Heh - I'm having idle problems in general....I think its just the nature of OBDII. I try to play around with it in the emanage, and it idles fine when the car is running that time, but when I go to start it another time, it idles like crap until it "learns" again....not sure why - but I am trying to figure it out....
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Originally Posted by dezod
Your having idle issues? I am not.
I am going to replace my O2 sensor and see if it cures it. Also, plan on checking my vacuum hoses as well....something just isn't right.
Its not the "learn procedure" - I've done that 2, 3 times already and the damn thing doesn't seem to stick....it has to be something else.
On a side note, its difficult to start when its hot too....This is why I'm going to try and change the O2 sensor - figure it may be crapped up due to running rich.....hope this fixes it.
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Originally Posted by opto_isolator
Yes....I think its unrelated to the injectors. It might be a side effect in fact.
I am going to replace my O2 sensor and see if it cures it. Also, plan on checking my vacuum hoses as well....something just isn't right.
Its not the "learn procedure" - I've done that 2, 3 times already and the damn thing doesn't seem to stick....it has to be something else.
On a side note, its difficult to start when its hot too....This is why I'm going to try and change the O2 sensor - figure it may be crapped up due to running rich.....hope this fixes it.
I am going to replace my O2 sensor and see if it cures it. Also, plan on checking my vacuum hoses as well....something just isn't right.
Its not the "learn procedure" - I've done that 2, 3 times already and the damn thing doesn't seem to stick....it has to be something else.
On a side note, its difficult to start when its hot too....This is why I'm going to try and change the O2 sensor - figure it may be crapped up due to running rich.....hope this fixes it.
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Originally Posted by dezod
WHOA!!! I have no probs on hot or cold starts. Try enabling the injector correction factor or try using the anti-stall function.
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Originally Posted by opto_isolator
Well - I was checking things out with the emanage, and decided to try adjusting the timing. I took 2 degrees out at idle, since the MAP sensor is advancing it....So far the car seems to idle smoother than it did. Not sure about the starting issue yet. I'm sure I'll find out later. I plan on heading to the track tomorrow with the new clutch (I've put close to 500 miles on it...)! Wish me luck...
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Rep Power: 298 hey is our stock injector actually 240cc. I was told by a honda tech that they were 195cc or so. Compared to my friends 240cc injectors ours are very small. I have RC 440's in there now and with the emanage correction set at 195cc to 440cc it idles way better than 240cc. Anyone know for sure the stock size? Im going to the dyno tomorrow so I can adjust accordingly but It will probably be easier if the correction is right to start with.
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Originally Posted by 02fpcivic
hey is our stock injector actually 240cc. I was told by a honda tech that they were 195cc or so. Compared to my friends 240cc injectors ours are very small. I have RC 440's in there now and with the emanage correction set at 195cc to 440cc it idles way better than 240cc. Anyone know for sure the stock size? Im going to the dyno tomorrow so I can adjust accordingly but It will probably be easier if the correction is right to start with.
Remember, the more you trim your MAP sensor the more crap you're going to have to do to get the car to run better (as in my case - hopefully the timing trick will work)....
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Rep Power: 298 yeah ok ill lean it out for idle but put the correction back to like 220 or so. Thanks opto. i have a boost rise fuel pressure regulator set at like 45lbs with zero vacuum. At idle its about 35. Im gunna mess with it more tomorrow 440s are kinda big to run off the boost. ill be running 12-14lbs of boost for my high setting so they will work fine for that. I dont care about anything else really,hehe
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Rep Power: 298 btw that correction factor hack seems to have worked for me so far. Has anyone got the MIL after doing that? My car idles fine but at part throttle it surges a lil bit.
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
any update Opto on how yours is running ?
Everything seems fine. I do have the regular "hack" symptoms though - the car doesn't idle correctly all the time, plus its hard to restart when its hot (you have to give it gas)....
I've read that folks on HT have similar issues when using the SAFC / VAFC for larger injectors....
I sure hope Hondata pulls through, as that would be a 100% ideal solution to all of these problems....
