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Old 03-03-2004
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After reviewing... Turbo or all motor?!?

I was set on getting a turbo until DH Racing came out with ported head and throttlebody for our car, which he claims makes at least 20 hp each? Combined with an intake, header and exhaust, that would be at least 50 or 60 whp for almost half the price of a full turbo setup (with all the extras and install it'd be about 4,000). For almost the same amount of gains (its going to be a daily driver so the boost would only be around 6-8 psi anyway), and less expensive, is this the way to go? Also, i could install these pieces myself, or at least the throttlebody. Am i missing something here? I would think going all motor would be more reliable also.
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where are you getting that i/h/e adds 20hp to the vic?
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Re: After reviewing... Turbo or all motor?!?

Originally posted by PeterV1228
I was set on getting a turbo until DH Racing came out with ported head and throttlebody for our car, which he claims makes at least 20 hp each? Combined with an intake, header and exhaust, that would be at least 50 or 60 whp for almost half the price of a full turbo setup (with all the extras and install it'd be about 4,000). For almost the same amount of gains (its going to be a daily driver so the boost would only be around 6-8 psi anyway), and less expensive, is this the way to go? Also, i could install these pieces myself, or at least the throttlebody. Am i missing something here? I would think going all motor would be more reliable also.
Your N/A numbers are WAY off bro do some research. We are talking about a single overhead cam here.
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He is right on with the claimed DH numbers, around 20 whp for both the tb and ported head...but thats exactly what they are....claimed. i/h/e on our cars will get you approx. 5-10 whp, so, theoretically, with i/h/e, dh's tb and head, you SHOULD be at approx. 150-160 whp. i believe there are some turbo kits out making approx. 185 whp on 5 psi, its not the sf kit, but itd be comparable.
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I agree with keep on this one in that they are claimed numbers I have yet to see any dyno from dh FOR OUR CARS! yes I have seen the dyno for the pulley that they claim 10-15hp but that was on a dual overhead cam integra type R.
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hmm mabye the numbers aren't really comparable then. But i think if the hp numbers they claim are real, then it is some decent reliable gains as opposed to a more expensive turbo setup.
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Go N/A!! Sure, it isn't as practical as a turbo kit for gains per dollar, but it would more unique @ least. We have D16 guys cranking out almost 200 hp in daily driving trim. And it almost certainly more reliable than recycling exhaust gases. I would like to go N/A to keep my gas mileage while having power on tap w/ No2.
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Going na isnt going to save you gas. Your asking for more power and you need more fuel for more power. Na is cool and all but if you want more than 200hp(wanna see this first) with no nitrous you might as well go turbo for cheaper. Turbo is way more cost effincient than na. Your gonna spend tons of money and be as fast as a turbo is at 5 psi. Turbo just seems like the better choice and when you want more power build and up the boost
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Originally posted by kileryoyo
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ok, i am not saying this cuz i jumped on the turbo bandwagon, i am saying this cuz i researched........All motor on a SOHC can be done but it will take alot of money and the hp per dollar isn't worth it. Also, your car will not be streetable as it would be with boost. Turbo on a SOHC motor is the way to go if you want some decent gains w/o breakin the bank.

also, going all motor will give ur car some downtime unlike a bolt-on turbo kit. You are also gonna have lots of tuning to do And for a daily driver.......all motor is a no no.
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Getting some NA mods will keep the engine lasting longer than with turbo. Of course you won't be nearly as fast.
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You could still get the n/a mods and then go turbo if you want more power cant u? its not like the pnp and throttle body would increase compression, would they?
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K20 N/A.. enough said.. trust me i tried D17 all motor
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^^ I would, if I could, but I wanna be original with a quick d17 all motor. It's not that I don't see it will cost a lot, but it will be different. Plus I'd like to keep the motor running a long time.
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Originally posted by throwback201
You could still get the n/a mods and then go turbo if you want more power cant u? its not like the pnp and throttle body would increase compression, would they?
do u know what a throttle body is, and where it is, its no where near anything that has to do with compression ratio, u can do NA mods and still go turbo yes, i wouldnt reccommend geting high comp pistons or nothing like that, bc ull just have to change them to low comp when u go turbo
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i know that the throttle body doesent increase compression. it just that peter made it sound like he could only get one or the other.
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Well money-wise i can only get one or the other.
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Originally posted by C2i0v0i1C
do u know what a throttle body is, and where it is, its no where near anything that has to do with compression ratio

Damn jumped down his throat, huh. Could have just answered his question
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