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best turbo kit availavble

which is the best turbo setup and why?

I would like to see the similarites and differences
between Stafford Fabrications, Turbo Discounters extreme kit
and the 3rd company that just came out with the funky
manifold.

who outperforms the other?

Those of you with turbo's, have you upgraded your intake
manifold with the KMS manifold and have you installed a
block guard to lower the pistons compression?

I search but find no answers...hopefully some of you
experts can help me out.

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the best turbo out there is a T88
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the best turbo out there is a T88
what are the similarities and differences...are you seririous?
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this is getting OT already...

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...hreadid=101556

i don't think anyone has any REAL numbers for that new hp kit, i'm guessing that it's no where near the hp numbers that they provide on their ebay auctions cause that's just freakin' rediculous... 185whp at only 5 psi on a stock engine and no fuel supplement... very skeptical if you ask me... the only way we can finally prove once and for all which kit is the best is if we had a dyno shootout between all the kits all at the same place and the same time which won't happen considering some of these manufacturers aren't all based in the same state.... that would be kinda cool if all the companies did come out to the same dyno to do a dyno shootout...
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Re: best turbo kit availavble

Originally posted by kjgracing
which is the best turbo setup and why?

I would like to see the similarites and differences
between Stafford Fabrications, Turbo Discounters extreme kit
and the 3rd company that just came out with the funky
manifold.

who outperforms the other?

Those of you with turbo's, have you upgraded your intake
manifold with the KMS manifold and have you installed a
block guard to lower the pistons compression?

I search but find no answers...hopefully some of you
experts can help me out.

well SF has the equal length manifold A+
TD...i have no idea about....riceburnr
the HP turbo...well it has good numbers at 5 psi, the next dyno attempt will be at 10 so lets see what that does

ALSO, a BLOCKGUARD DOES NOT LOWER COMPRESSION

pistons arent compression either, the sizing of them and the dish size is a component of getting to the compression ratio

blockguard and pistons dont interact, the block guard reinforces the cylinder wall
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Originally posted by iamboo
this is getting OT already...

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...hreadid=101556

i don't think anyone has any REAL numbers for that new hp kit, i'm guessing that it's no where near the hp numbers that they provide on their ebay auctions cause that's just freakin' rediculous... 185whp at only 5 psi on a stock engine and no fuel supplement... very skeptical if you ask me... the only way we can finally prove once and for all which kit is the best is if we had a dyno shootout between all the kits all at the same place and the same time which won't happen considering some of these manufacturers aren't all based in the same state.... that would be kinda cool if all the companies did come out to the same dyno to do a dyno shootout...


oooooooo sounds fun

also the dynos are up for DIRK21 with the HP kit
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this thread is just gonna be a flaming contest since one person has the TD kit and Dirk21 has the other kit while everyone else has SF.
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sweet, hondaluver is a tool !!!

haha, j/p
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
this thread is just gonna be a flaming contest since one person has the TD kit and Dirk21 has the other kit while everyone else has SF.
there are a lot of biased people here for that reason... me being one of them but there is no real way of proving these number unless you're there to see the dyno or get it on video... sf has dyno'd the EX with the same turbo kit at the same boost setting as the LX and the end result was that they both put out very similar numbers.... if your kit really pulled 185whp at 5psi... congrats and i'm sorry if i sounded like i'm hating but my reason for being skeptical is that sf made only 166 at 5.5psi.... i forgot to keep in mind that he was using the stock LX exhaust when running this dyno.... i'm sure with the bigger exhaust, he could put out just as much hp as the hp kit...
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Originally posted by HondaLuver
let the flameing begin
this isn't the so cal forum...

try to keep it serious here... consider this a warning bro... i wanna stay on topic with this thread....
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alright, i am bias to the SF kit, for obvious reasons, but

SF kit has.......

equal length mani as upgrade
track proven, dyno proven and customer proven results
customer care is excellent but many ppl are waiting on their parts for a long time
kits take awhile to be made since they are custom
small company which cares about the ppl and posts here regularly

the kit that dirk21 has

proven dyno results at 5psi
warranty
u have to relocate the battery
they are working with hondata to make a chip
no fuel system.......injects alot of alcohol

anybody else, chime in
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sorry for kidding around... but i personally want a k20a with a cybernation stage 3 turbo kit...
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haha........j/p again Hondaluver

but does anybody know anything about the TD kit, cuz i don't
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it would nice to see dyno sheets next to each other and the 1/4 mile times
that both the turbos produce.

SF is the most popular and I definately would get the water alcahol injection,
but is there a gauge to let you know that your are running low?
I wouldn't want to run out and have the boost a at 8psi and run into detonation.
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dont' quote me on this, cuz i have not installed it yet, but.......

there is no gauge to tell u it is low. U set it at what psi it injects at......so, lets say u are running at 8 psi and u set it to inject at 6psi then it will. You can use ur windshield washer bottle for the alcohol, so u can just regularly check that.
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How much W/A does it use..would it need to be filled every tank full of gas
or every 100 miles?
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it depends on what psi u set it at to spray and how much u are at that psi.........if u have it set to inject at 6 psi and u are just cruising around town and then u wont' use it that much.
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
while everyone else has SF.
im sorry but ur thought cannot be completed as stated

boosted and i have kits made from scratch
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ok.......i'm wrong there

but, he wanted to compare the 3 manufactured kits

Unless u want to make one and sell it to him
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
ok.......i'm wrong there

but, he wanted to compare the 3 manufactured kits

Unless u want to make one and sell it to him
too bad theres 4
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yeah yeah, the max rev kit, but again, he didnt' ask opinions on that kit
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Re: best turbo kit availavble

Originally posted by kjgracing
which is the best turbo setup and why?

I would like to see the similarites and differences
between Stafford Fabrications, Turbo Discounters extreme kit
and the 3rd company that just came out with the funky
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who outperforms the other?

yea cause hes a moron who didnt search and doesnt know that there is a Forth.
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true, but dont' flame me for that......i was just giving opinions on what he asked.
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Re: Re: best turbo kit availavble

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yea cause hes a moron who didnt search and doesnt know that there is a Forth.
how do you search for homemade crap?
I only knew of the 3 turbo kits available.
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no maxrev makes a kit..
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i think the reason the HP kit is making 185hp at 5psi, is that it is using alcohol injection from the start that could be the factor making it a bit better a 5 psi, unlike SF's kit where when you reach a certain psi (5-6 psi i think) thenk it uses the alcohol inyection, the HP kit has tu refill with methanol twice per tank of gas, while the SF kit does not
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^^^ ur kinda right there sir.....but u set at what psi the alcohol injects.....and remember, not everybody has W/A injection

and yes, the hp kit has no fuel system.......it relies on alcohol injection to compensate for the lack of fuel.
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