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Old 09-28-2003
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D17 internals.......

Well I think there should be a thread that list all of the internals available for our cars. For example, cams, pistions, valve springs, rods.

We should list all the parts and all the companies that make them.

Also what I would like to know is does anyone have a 7thgen with upgraded internals that is running higher than the recommened 6-8 psi daily???
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i'm running 10 psi daily... lol... no knocking or detonation... my a/f gauge stays green at boost... i don't think you need internals unless you want to boost any higher that 12+ psi... that's just my opinion...
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i have pistons, robbusaf and pdchasinr6 are also going to have pistons and rods when their cars are finished
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Originally posted by iamboo
i'm running 10 psi daily... lol... no knocking or detonation... my a/f gauge stays green at boost... i don't think you need internals unless you want to boost any higher that 12+ psi... that's just my opinion...
SEE you cant just say **** like that cause your not running 10psi daily ... and thats just it... thats messed up for u to say that only cause what if he turned his turbo upto 10psi ? u need to state that ur using 'alcohol injection' and THAT- THAT ALONE is whats keeping you from dentonation.. otherwise ur engine would be toast at 10psi without internals...

sorry not tryin to sound like im attacking you.. i just would hate to see vin blow his engine up cause he saw that ur running 10psi with no internal work and figured he could too. ya know.


6-7 psi is normal without internal work on an LX ... 8ish for an EX
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Re: D17 internals.......

Originally posted by ViNRoCk8

Also what I would like to know is does anyone have a 7thgen with upgraded internals that is running higher than the recommened 6-8 psi daily???

C2i0 is running 12psi daily with internal work.. but im sure he can go to atleast 15-16 if he wanted...
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my shop and i plan on testing my car up to 22psi after we get the motor broken in.....of course that will be while its being monitored on a dyno however.
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Originally posted by PdchasinR6
my shop and i plan on testing my car up to 22psi after we get the motor broken in.....of course that will be while its being monitored on a dyno however.
damn thats insane. Post up the results when you have it done. I would also like to know what mods you did if that isnt too much trouble.
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD

6-7 psi is normal without internal work on an LX ... 8ish for an EX
Do you know this for a fact, because to me it seems that you should be able to boost more on the LX than the EX due to the EX having a higher compression ratio. Just my opinion, unless you know something else about the EX that would allow it to handle more boost than an LX.
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no.. i think oso is wrong there.. i think EX can actually handle 1psi less or so due to compression ratio...
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Originally posted by PdchasinR6
my shop and i plan on testing my car up to 22psi after we get the motor broken in.....of course that will be while its being monitored on a dyno however.
really... hmmm well... when u blow out the bottem lower part of the block .. let me know .. i wanna see pics like when i did it......






im not raggin on u .. in case thats what u think.. i just wanna help to make sure that kind of thing doesnt happen.. just looking out!
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Originally posted by futurersxswap
no.. i think oso is wrong there.. i think EX can actually handle 1psi less or so due to compression ratio...
could have SWORN catalyst told me that the ex could take 8psi.... im not stating it as a fact.. just rememberin what the turbo god stated is all.. i could be wrong.. no ones perfect.. but im pretty sure i herd that.
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wasnt this thread about internals? how'd it turn into whos running how much boost? lol
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Question A pain?

Is the Alch. injection a pain to maintain?
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not from what i hear... all u gotta do is fill it up about every time u fill up ur gas tank... and thats it..
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i neglected to mention that... i have alcohol injection BUT at one time i wasn't using alcohol injection and it was running fine without it... no detonation or knocking.... the alcohol is just a safe guard for me...

i should have made a disclaimer and said that you should only boost at your own risk... then again boosting at any psi is potential risk for blowing a motor....
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LOLOL yea u guys with A/injection should.
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Ok.....back to internals.....JE makes pistons for our cars. As far as Rods and any other brand of piston, You can pretty much contact any company and give them specs of what size piston you would like and they will customs make them for you. It may be a little more expensive but you'll have the built motor and will be happy when you arent blown.
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crower makes rods
anyone make anything that will help with fuel? like pumps, rails, etc...? cant run more boost without more fuel. i heard that you can do something to the ECU to make it feed more fuel, but they werent talking about our cars but could you do something like that with our ECU?
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Re: D17 internals.......

Originally posted by ViNRoCk8
Well I think there should be a thread that list all of the internals available for our cars. For example, cams, pistions, valve springs, rods.

We should list all the parts and all the companies that make them.

Also what I would like to know is does anyone have a 7thgen with upgraded internals that is running higher than the recommened 6-8 psi daily???
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Re: Re: D17 internals.......

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hahaha....another old thread.

What do u need help on ?
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list all of the internals available for our cars. For example, cams, pistons, valve springs, rods. And list all the parts and all the companies that make them. thanks!
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how much are pistons and rods on average and what kinda boost could you run with just those two upgrades?
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my pistons were 550, and the rods were a lil high at 695, JE and CROWER, i run 11 all the time with just pistons, with the rods and pistons together i wouldnt go much further than 1 bar, until the sleeves were replaced
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^^^what piston rings do you have?
i've got wiseco pistons(501), crower rods(723), and sealed power rings(86). BCE engineering, some company in the mainland got the parts for me and did the head. pnp,valve job, and super street packagew/upgraded exhaust valve.
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hell if i remember, whatever ones come with the pistons from JE
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Originally posted by CIVIC808
^^^what piston rings do you have?
i've got wiseco pistons(501), crower rods(723), and sealed power rings(86). BCE engineering, some company in the mainland got the parts for me and did the head. pnp,valve job, and super street packagew/upgraded exhaust valve.
there's diffrent piston rings? what are they? how much you got the wiseco pistons? the wiseco pistons doesnt come with rings and pins?
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there's diffrent piston rings? what are they? how much you got the wiseco pistons? the wiseco pistons doesnt come with rings and pins?
sealed power rings(86).mine came with the wrist pins.price is $501
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how much did u pay for the installation of the rods and pistons wiht the boring of your engine if needed???
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The EX can handle more because it pulls a little bit of timing out when it goes into vtec. So that overcompensates for the compression ratio. Making it safer for an extra 1 psi of boost.
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