k20a swap to 94-01 integ type r
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k20a swap to 94-01 integ type r
Can u swap the new jdm integra type r (k20a) into the older model inetgra? I kno this might not be ur guys specialty, but maybe some1 knows? And does it make a big dif performance wise relating to the older type r engine?
As far as I know, no one's done it. And any REAL Type R enthusiast wouldn't care to do it. The K series has already been dropped into the EK chassis so for no reason what-so-ever it should be impossible as it is.
The new engine produces more power than the older one but both cars are still no different than comparing an RSX-S to an Integra GS-R. The GS-R just has a raw feeling when you drive it hard, whereas the Type S is more refined, a little bit quieter, a bit smoother throughout the powerband (including the VTEC), handles a little better and also a little bit faster.
There is a lot more that you can do with a B-series engine than the K-series at this point but it's been proven already that the most potential in terms of engine power and capability, the K-series wins. Respectfully the K20A-R engine is a little more torquier at the bottom end but there were just some acolades about the engine some DC2R owners appreciated about their cars over the new generation of Integras. Powerwise, the K20A wins. In #s a stock DC5R will go across the quarter in 14.2 seconds and reach 0-60 around 5.8 seconds. Where as the older DC2R will make it in 14.6 in the 1/4 and 6.5 0-60. With the additional torque, slightly lighter engine, and a more refined method of hand-porting and polishing by using a fine grain of sand, the K20A-R speaks for itself as the successor of the new powerplant for the Integra Type R.
Putting the engine in an Integra may not be the best idea. Although the engine weighs lesser no one knows how this'll affect it's weight distribution which can throw off it's handling capabilities. No one really knows how the engine would handle in stressful condition when it has to turn but if you're going straight then you have a lot less to worry about if that's your gameplan.
Hasport will make motor mounts for the older generation of Civics and Integras to accomidate K-series engines once they are done making the motor mounts necessary for our car to handle the torquey K24 Accord block.
The new engine produces more power than the older one but both cars are still no different than comparing an RSX-S to an Integra GS-R. The GS-R just has a raw feeling when you drive it hard, whereas the Type S is more refined, a little bit quieter, a bit smoother throughout the powerband (including the VTEC), handles a little better and also a little bit faster.
There is a lot more that you can do with a B-series engine than the K-series at this point but it's been proven already that the most potential in terms of engine power and capability, the K-series wins. Respectfully the K20A-R engine is a little more torquier at the bottom end but there were just some acolades about the engine some DC2R owners appreciated about their cars over the new generation of Integras. Powerwise, the K20A wins. In #s a stock DC5R will go across the quarter in 14.2 seconds and reach 0-60 around 5.8 seconds. Where as the older DC2R will make it in 14.6 in the 1/4 and 6.5 0-60. With the additional torque, slightly lighter engine, and a more refined method of hand-porting and polishing by using a fine grain of sand, the K20A-R speaks for itself as the successor of the new powerplant for the Integra Type R.
Putting the engine in an Integra may not be the best idea. Although the engine weighs lesser no one knows how this'll affect it's weight distribution which can throw off it's handling capabilities. No one really knows how the engine would handle in stressful condition when it has to turn but if you're going straight then you have a lot less to worry about if that's your gameplan.
Hasport will make motor mounts for the older generation of Civics and Integras to accomidate K-series engines once they are done making the motor mounts necessary for our car to handle the torquey K24 Accord block.
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Rep Power: 0 so... its impossible or u dont reccomend it.. cause ima need to buy a older integ tpye r engine or a new jdm integra type r (k20a) soon. And if the k20a is that much better and i can put it into the older integ... y should i buy the older integra type r engine when i can get the k20a?
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Rep Power: 0 No it is possible and has been done. Sorry no pics or info on hand, but I know there was someone who dropped a k20 into a 6th gen hatch...this was a while ago too. Last I heard the guy had a lot of tuning and tinkering to do , but it ran.
The question is why? The 6th gen hatch I can understand, but a Type R is already such a brillant platform to begin with, I would just stick with what is already there.
EDIT: Note that this was no bolt in affair, there was a lot of custom work that had to be done; custom mounts, wiring, knocking back the firewall, etc. Just stick with the B18C5.
The question is why? The 6th gen hatch I can understand, but a Type R is already such a brillant platform to begin with, I would just stick with what is already there.
EDIT: Note that this was no bolt in affair, there was a lot of custom work that had to be done; custom mounts, wiring, knocking back the firewall, etc. Just stick with the B18C5.
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If you need it soon, get the B18C5. If money's not an object then get the K20A. Like Cash said - it took a lot of custom work to put it in the EK and if you're willing to do that without knowing how it'll affect the car's overall balance (since it's on the other side of the car) then I think it would be taking a risk. The older chassis was never intended for a K-engine as an EM2 was never intended to hold a B18 block (although it might work).
I think you should do some extensive research on doing the swap with a K20A. I would just stick to the B18C5 or the JDM B18C-R since it's cost effecting and it is proven to work without any problems or concerns. I wouldn't do it unless you feel like being some pioneer in the process.
I think you should do some extensive research on doing the swap with a K20A. I would just stick to the B18C5 or the JDM B18C-R since it's cost effecting and it is proven to work without any problems or concerns. I wouldn't do it unless you feel like being some pioneer in the process.
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Wouldn’t you also have to get a new transmission if you got the k20? I thought I read that it spins in the opposite direction as those engines.
Wouldn’t you also have to get a new transmission if you got the k20? I thought I read that it spins in the opposite direction as those engines.
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Rep Power: 0 We'll have a kit done by SEMA. So it will be available before the end of the year. It will be a weld in not bolt in kit. We will have it locate off already existing hole to make it hard to screw up when installing.
There is a drag Integra using some of our early prototype mounts that will soon be racing.
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There is a drag Integra using some of our early prototype mounts that will soon be racing.
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Rep Power: 0 illegal to drop an older engine in a newew body car... maybe that's why a lot of people don't swap b series motors into the EM body.... but the k20 into a 6th gen would work...
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You just use the Type S tranny with it.
You just use the Type S tranny with it.
They are very much different.Would a USDM tranny work with a JDM engine? I do not know. Does someone? I know it would bolt on to it but is that all there is to it? I'm thinking something would electronically go wrong.
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Rep Power: 0 Type R trannys are waste of money, id rather run b16 tranny...and why k20 just wonderin, if I were you id call up japan and ask them to send you over a Automatic jdm b16 motor and just work with that...reason why automatic people are probably wondering, well we all know autos cant rev as high and hard as stick, so my point exactly whoever had it b4 most likely didnt jack it up as bad as someone with stick would...so small tip for all you guys droppin motors into your cars, if its possible to do a auto swap motor onto your manual tranny GO FOR IT,! most people will prob tell you, well why would I want an automatic rev limiter on my stick, well changing that wouldnt be as big as a problem as swapping a motor that broke down on you b.c. some guy who had it b4 u raced it to much
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