andyman (SF) vs. zinkyroo (maxrev)
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I'm not posting all the maps... but you get the general idea. It's 500rpm increment from factory, but you can change the increments as long as you stay 16x16
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Originally posted by Catalyst
Andyman is actually a really competent person. And he has no problem asking questions when he doesnt know what something is. I am sure that now that he knows what all goes where on the turbo kit, he could take it off and put it back on all within a couple hours.
The place he gets his (awesome) attitude from is the group of street racers he hangs out with. By going to colorado and meeting him and his friends, we got to go to the street races out there and just hang out (since the colorado street races are more like a car show, since nobody races).
But now andy does have the car to back up his talk. If andy doesnt use ice in the intercooler, and doesnt use the alcohol injection, his car will actually be slower than our base kit. Believe me, i have had all the kits on my car. Without ice in the intercooler, and without the alcohol injection, Andy's car is still fast.
Andyman is actually a really competent person. And he has no problem asking questions when he doesnt know what something is. I am sure that now that he knows what all goes where on the turbo kit, he could take it off and put it back on all within a couple hours.
The place he gets his (awesome) attitude from is the group of street racers he hangs out with. By going to colorado and meeting him and his friends, we got to go to the street races out there and just hang out (since the colorado street races are more like a car show, since nobody races).
But now andy does have the car to back up his talk. If andy doesnt use ice in the intercooler, and doesnt use the alcohol injection, his car will actually be slower than our base kit. Believe me, i have had all the kits on my car. Without ice in the intercooler, and without the alcohol injection, Andy's car is still fast.
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Ok, doesn't make sense to me but what I want to know is how, with such big injectors, you'll be able to idle smoothly when you aren't able to dial down fuel pressure. I mean, do you understand how this is going to work? Do yourself a favor and research it if you don't understand it.
Ok, doesn't make sense to me but what I want to know is how, with such big injectors, you'll be able to idle smoothly when you aren't able to dial down fuel pressure. I mean, do you understand how this is going to work? Do yourself a favor and research it if you don't understand it.
as long as e-manage can dial down the paulse of the injectors enough to compensate for the higher pressure, the little extra pressure doesn't matter.
the whole point of having a injector control unit is so no mechanical units have to be used. i.e. fmu, fpr..
mechanical controls will fail easier than electrical controls, that is the main reason why it is best to go that route if you want your car to be daily driven.
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The whole fuel system doesn't make sense to me.....maybe n318z was using the safc instead of the safc II like I have. I know with the safc injector pulse can only be changed every 500rpm but on the safc II it is every 200 rpm. As far as at idle, I had to pull out 50% of my fuel from such high fuel pressure.....so the safc II would work fine with bigger injectors.
As far as defining fast....at 6k ft, low 14's, high 13's for a daily driver is fast in my book.
As far as defining fast....at 6k ft, low 14's, high 13's for a daily driver is fast in my book.
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The whole fuel system doesn't make sense to me.....maybe n318z was using the safc instead of the safc II like I have. I know with the safc injector pulse can only be changed every 500rpm but on the safc II it is every 200 rpm. As far as at idle, I had to pull out 50% of my fuel from such high fuel pressure.....so the safc II would work fine with bigger injectors.
As far as defining fast....at 6k ft, low 14's, high 13's for a daily driver is fast in my book.
The whole fuel system doesn't make sense to me.....maybe n318z was using the safc instead of the safc II like I have. I know with the safc injector pulse can only be changed every 500rpm but on the safc II it is every 200 rpm. As far as at idle, I had to pull out 50% of my fuel from such high fuel pressure.....so the safc II would work fine with bigger injectors.
As far as defining fast....at 6k ft, low 14's, high 13's for a daily driver is fast in my book.
I think at 6k ft, with basic boost, you won't make 13. If you get below 15, you are a very good driver.
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mechanical controls will fail easier than electrical controls, that is the main reason why it is best to go that route if you want your car to be daily driven.
mechanical controls will fail easier than electrical controls, that is the main reason why it is best to go that route if you want your car to be daily driven.
As long as it is used in the manner it was made for, the mechanical unit should last forever.
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Rep Power: 0 You have an rx8? Turbo that biatch!!! Just work on the 7th gen so we can know what to do and what not do 
, since you have so many vettes wanna lend me one till i get a sf kit 
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, since you have so many vettes wanna lend me one till i get a sf kit . Registered!!
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That is not true. My computer fails more than all of my cars combined (3 vettes, 1 truck, 1 RX8, 1 4-runner, 1 civic)
As long as it is used in the manner it was made for, the mechanical unit should last forever.
That is not true. My computer fails more than all of my cars combined (3 vettes, 1 truck, 1 RX8, 1 4-runner, 1 civic)
As long as it is used in the manner it was made for, the mechanical unit should last forever.
mechanical won't last forever, not even close.
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Rep Power: 312 I am talking about computers in general. This computer that i am typing on has failed me more than any of my cars. I know about computers, i started out as a programming major. But i enjoy chemistry much more so now i am a chemical Engineering major.
We have been turbocharging cars for more than 7 years now, and many of our original cars are running today. The most common thing that has failed in the past 7 years is the fuel pump, and EVERY car has a fuel pump. And that is pretty much the only moving part that is on our fuel system. We dont have a common FPR, it is a little different than the ones you guys are used to. So the only wear and tear that our kit has, is the fuel pump, which will probably still outlast the stock fuel pump. And it is all under warrantee.
And as for wear and tear in general, your entire engine is composed of moving parts. Rubbing, sliding, and brushing one another. And it still runs after 270,000 miles, at least, that is how many i had on my crx, and 55,000 of them were turbo miles on 15 psi daily (all stock internals).
We have been turbocharging cars for more than 7 years now, and many of our original cars are running today. The most common thing that has failed in the past 7 years is the fuel pump, and EVERY car has a fuel pump. And that is pretty much the only moving part that is on our fuel system. We dont have a common FPR, it is a little different than the ones you guys are used to. So the only wear and tear that our kit has, is the fuel pump, which will probably still outlast the stock fuel pump. And it is all under warrantee.
And as for wear and tear in general, your entire engine is composed of moving parts. Rubbing, sliding, and brushing one another. And it still runs after 270,000 miles, at least, that is how many i had on my crx, and 55,000 of them were turbo miles on 15 psi daily (all stock internals).
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Rep Power: 0 what kind of fpr does your kit include. it doesn't work off a pressure operated valve? can you give me more details? so far, only your kit look the most promising, please provide more details about this. please let me know when you hit 12's. we really need something that will put the new civic into 12's.
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Rep Power: 312 well, i cant really give out the details, because it is this fuel system that makes our's superior.
Dont worry about the 12's, i should have my car back together by this weekend (Dave is finishing my head by Thurs. Night), so i should have a run by the following weekend.
And like my 13.6 run, it will probably be posted on this site before i ever leave the track
Still kinda wondering how that happened.
Dont worry about the 12's, i should have my car back together by this weekend (Dave is finishing my head by Thurs. Night), so i should have a run by the following weekend.
And like my 13.6 run, it will probably be posted on this site before i ever leave the track
Still kinda wondering how that happened.
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Rep Power: 0 i call cat hittin a 12.6 still .. thats my call with the new parts... come on cat, prove me right bro... I KNOW YOU CAN DO IT!.... oh btw.. im calling that based on 12-13psi... and better hook ups.. also the ported head wont hurt any... LOL.. probly gonna give you like 30more whp DAVE IS THE MAN!!!!!
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isnt zinkyroo's car not finished yet???! whats the deal? did it even fit? hows the car andyman? you have the air/water intercooler w/ alcohol injection ryt? have you tried it on long drives? anyproblems?
isnt zinkyroo's car not finished yet???! whats the deal? did it even fit? hows the car andyman? you have the air/water intercooler w/ alcohol injection ryt? have you tried it on long drives? anyproblems?
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Rep Power: 350 No, zinky is still getting d*cked around by maxrev....if you check "mikeatmaxrev" for his member status, you'll see he's no longer a gold vendor and he hasn't been back to the site since the end of july.
Project2k2, you're a dumbf*ck so stfu, k.
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