andyman (SF) vs. zinkyroo (maxrev)
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Originally posted by andyman97
Bahaha, too funny.
Anywho, I wasn't planning on running with ice, I was going to use roome temp ice and boost at whatever psi he wants to boost at. And no, I won't use alcohol injection. I don't even need it until I'm at around 9 lbs. If he wants to run at 7 lbs, that's fine with me, I am not going to use ice in the intercooler. This is not a slow kit, you saw catalyst ran a 13.6 on 9 lbs with a fmic.
Bahaha, too funny.
Anywho, I wasn't planning on running with ice, I was going to use roome temp ice and boost at whatever psi he wants to boost at. And no, I won't use alcohol injection. I don't even need it until I'm at around 9 lbs. If he wants to run at 7 lbs, that's fine with me, I am not going to use ice in the intercooler. This is not a slow kit, you saw catalyst ran a 13.6 on 9 lbs with a fmic.
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Rep Power: 0 isn't about money spent to horspower gained.so if andy got all the upgades avalible and spent less then its still a fair kit.as far as being a beter kit that can't be determend by horsepower alone,more like driveability,torque curve,spool up time (turbo lag),as well as max capability.
stafford fab. turbo system 2900.00
alcohol in jection 100.00
turbo upgrade 100.00
air / water intercooler 400.00
total 3600.00
if he doesn't use ice in the cooler it is less efficient as the air to air
-400.00
if he doesn't use alcohol -100
so for the race it sounds like andy is at a 2900.00 kit with some efficientcey loss with out ice .dose it sound like a fair race now.
what has zinky spent on his kit and did he have to pay to get it tuned on a dyno to make it run right?
stafford fab. turbo system 2900.00
alcohol in jection 100.00
turbo upgrade 100.00
air / water intercooler 400.00
total 3600.00
if he doesn't use ice in the cooler it is less efficient as the air to air
-400.00
if he doesn't use alcohol -100
so for the race it sounds like andy is at a 2900.00 kit with some efficientcey loss with out ice .dose it sound like a fair race now.
what has zinky spent on his kit and did he have to pay to get it tuned on a dyno to make it run right?
Originally posted by FlyRiceRacer02
It was only a matter of time before you tried back out. Dont worry, we all know that you were thinking that SF is better deep down inside.
It was only a matter of time before you tried back out. Dont worry, we all know that you were thinking that SF is better deep down inside.
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he said nuthing about backing out, he simply stated the obvious saying its unfair to run a base kit against a highly upgraded kit. He just knows he'll lose.
it's like running a N/A k20 against a N/A d17, its just not fair.
he said nuthing about backing out, he simply stated the obvious saying its unfair to run a base kit against a highly upgraded kit. He just knows he'll lose.
it's like running a N/A k20 against a N/A d17, its just not fair.
Also Im sure if I talked with Max-Rev I could ahve them build me an upgraded kit
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Originally posted by zinkyroo
Thank you for actually reading my full post.
Also Im sure if I talked with Max-Rev I could ahve them build me an upgraded kit
Thank you for actually reading my full post.
Also Im sure if I talked with Max-Rev I could ahve them build me an upgraded kit
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also I don't think price of the kits is a really good comparison since price varies. You can always lower or raise the price anytime just according to the demand. (ie. you are selling a $3000 kit right now, but then later when no one is buying, you might have to lower it to $2000 or so, just so you can get rid of it).
I also agree that the driver's ability need to factor into this, unless you guys are running on the strip and can get a time slip somehow...whoever cross the finish line first doesn't really mean he has a better kit. As for the kit, keep everything to the base kit would be better for comparison. but if someone wants to do all the upgrades, then ahead, just know that you are "racing" for the fun of it and not to prove anything.
just my 2 cents..
also I don't think price of the kits is a really good comparison since price varies. You can always lower or raise the price anytime just according to the demand. (ie. you are selling a $3000 kit right now, but then later when no one is buying, you might have to lower it to $2000 or so, just so you can get rid of it).
I also agree that the driver's ability need to factor into this, unless you guys are running on the strip and can get a time slip somehow...whoever cross the finish line first doesn't really mean he has a better kit. As for the kit, keep everything to the base kit would be better for comparison. but if someone wants to do all the upgrades, then ahead, just know that you are "racing" for the fun of it and not to prove anything.
just my 2 cents..
I really dont know why this is turning into a giant bash fest...I don't care if I win or lose I am happy with the setup I have. And I think thats all that matters when your get a turbo setup. I dont care if my car is slower than a car with SF's setup, I have faith in all of my components I chose, and thats all I care about. Now feel free to call me whatever you like, and I could care less because this is a god damn message board.
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One thing at a time, make sure that they can make a kit that fits first
One thing at a time, make sure that they can make a kit that fits first
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flyriceracer02......let me ask who is the owner of that lovely *** in your sig?
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You don't need this thread for that, you already started a thread that was getting no more replies.
You don't need this thread for that, you already started a thread that was getting no more replies.
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Rep Power: 312 Andyman is actually a really competent person. And he has no problem asking questions when he doesnt know what something is. I am sure that now that he knows what all goes where on the turbo kit, he could take it off and put it back on all within a couple hours.
The place he gets his (awesome) attitude from is the group of street racers he hangs out with. By going to colorado and meeting him and his friends, we got to go to the street races out there and just hang out (since the colorado street races are more like a car show, since nobody races).
But now andy does have the car to back up his talk. If andy doesnt use ice in the intercooler, and doesnt use the alcohol injection, his car will actually be slower than our base kit. Believe me, i have had all the kits on my car. Without ice in the intercooler, and without the alcohol injection, Andy's car is still fast.
The place he gets his (awesome) attitude from is the group of street racers he hangs out with. By going to colorado and meeting him and his friends, we got to go to the street races out there and just hang out (since the colorado street races are more like a car show, since nobody races).
But now andy does have the car to back up his talk. If andy doesnt use ice in the intercooler, and doesnt use the alcohol injection, his car will actually be slower than our base kit. Believe me, i have had all the kits on my car. Without ice in the intercooler, and without the alcohol injection, Andy's car is still fast.
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Personally, I think andyman97 was born in 97. He just upgraded from a nookie to a lollypop.
Personally, I think andyman97 was born in 97. He just upgraded from a nookie to a lollypop.
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Ok **** it then. I wont respond anymore and you can jsut go on talking **** and you wont get to race me, Since you dont want me posting in this thread anymore. So just keep on talking and talking and talking, because thats all you will ever get.
Ok **** it then. I wont respond anymore and you can jsut go on talking **** and you wont get to race me, Since you dont want me posting in this thread anymore. So just keep on talking and talking and talking, because thats all you will ever get.
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Andyman is actually a really competent person. And he has no problem asking questions when he doesnt know what something is. I am sure that now that he knows what all goes where on the turbo kit, he could take it off and put it back on all within a couple hours.
The place he gets his (awesome) attitude from is the group of street racers he hangs out with. By going to colorado and meeting him and his friends, we got to go to the street races out there and just hang out (since the colorado street races are more like a car show, since nobody races).
But now andy does have the car to back up his talk. If andy doesnt use ice in the intercooler, and doesnt use the alcohol injection, his car will actually be slower than our base kit. Believe me, i have had all the kits on my car. Without ice in the intercooler, and without the alcohol injection, Andy's car is still fast.
Andyman is actually a really competent person. And he has no problem asking questions when he doesnt know what something is. I am sure that now that he knows what all goes where on the turbo kit, he could take it off and put it back on all within a couple hours.
The place he gets his (awesome) attitude from is the group of street racers he hangs out with. By going to colorado and meeting him and his friends, we got to go to the street races out there and just hang out (since the colorado street races are more like a car show, since nobody races).
But now andy does have the car to back up his talk. If andy doesnt use ice in the intercooler, and doesnt use the alcohol injection, his car will actually be slower than our base kit. Believe me, i have had all the kits on my car. Without ice in the intercooler, and without the alcohol injection, Andy's car is still fast.
And we do race but it's usually much later, like early am, we had alot of cops out that night and it just wasn't safe unfortunately.
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Rep Power: 312 yea, i understand that. I just have to make fun of you colorodian people. (is that what you are called?) Our stuff out here is way different than your guys'. Just poking at you in good fun!
Our stuff out here is way different than your guys'. Just poking at you in good fun! 
