M3 Canyon Run accident: 1 dead
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M3 Canyon Run accident: 1 dead
An M3 lost control in the Santiago canyons and killed 1 person.
They were doing 100mph when it lost control, flipped upside down, and burst into flames. The driver and front passenger walked away with severe burns. The rear passenger (James) was too unfortunate and burned to death as the car kept exploding. People couldn't get him out because the whole car was in flames and it was too late.
According to someone's post, fuel was leaking and the sparks initiated the chaos.
Here's a quote by droptop:
Source: http://216.118.86.224/m3forum/showth...5&pagenumber=2
For more info. read from the beginning of that thread.
Don't just say "ok i learned my lesson", apply what you've read and be a safer driver. How would you like to kill your friend?
I'm not a very sensitive guy, but this has really touched me.
Rest in peace James
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They were doing 100mph when it lost control, flipped upside down, and burst into flames. The driver and front passenger walked away with severe burns. The rear passenger (James) was too unfortunate and burned to death as the car kept exploding. People couldn't get him out because the whole car was in flames and it was too late.
According to someone's post, fuel was leaking and the sparks initiated the chaos.
Here's a quote by droptop:
"On the Santiago run, the Immola Red M3 spun out of control, flipped upside down, and one person died. no joke, his name was James. he burned to death because he was wedged in the back. this was a result of the driver going way over 100mph on a semi-sharp turn and gravel chipped his car. the front passenger survived with no injuries, but the driver lost his car, and he is badly cut/bruised.
Here is my perception of what happened:
I was in Scott's car (the guy with the E46 328i) and we were going about 60 and when we turn that corner, we see a mountain of flames. I was saying to myself please dont let it be one of the M's. when we got closer to the scene, i saw the M rim, and I saw that it was the Immola Red M3. I jetted out of the car, and started running towards the car, I hear some guy screaming for help, then when I get closer to the car, I hear three pops so I backed off. then the screaming from James ended. I knew that his life was over. there was nothing that anyone could do.
One of the guys is another M3 say his best friend burn to death, it wasnt a pretty site. There were a total of 4 E46 M3's , 1 burned down, 1 passed them up, and 2 stayed behind and helped out.
Then a whole bunch of motorist from both sides of traffic stopped their cars, and began helping out. one lady in a red civic hb had her window rolled down and said "thats what you ****ers get for street racing" everyone tried to call 911, but it was giving us the busy signal. and finally someone got through.
After Scott called 911, some guy in a truck comes up to the silver E46 M3 and asks "whose car is this" and then Socal M3 was on his cell phone, and says "its mine" and then the guy said "well come over here and sit on the curb, your being detained" after that, he busts out his badge. and then one passer by said "your a cop, thank god" and thats when me, scott, and the two guys in the TI's said **** it, we dont want to get involved, so we turned around and left, coz we couldnt handle **** like that.
I think the reason why this happened was that the guy in the Immola Red M3 wanted to beat the SMG Black M3, we all knew that he wasnt going to do it, the SMG M3 was just too fast, but then this guy was so determined to beat him, and he just couldnt do it, which resulted in him causing him to lose his car, someone else's life, and putting someone else in jeopardy.
Its obvious that the guy in the Immola Red is going be in jail these are some of the reasons why:
1. Street Racing (felony)
2. 1st Degree Murder (life in prison w/ or w/o parole)
3. Speeding
4. Exceeding 100 mph (felony)
5. Endangering Passengers
I dont know much more about it, but I think that everyone who attended this meet, should find out when the funeral services are, and to attended, its the least that we can do, considering that most people dont know who he is, but he didnt deserve this, to end his life at an early age.
This meet wouldnt have ended if everyone went on the run as a group, instead of running red lights, and speeding and cutting people off. we were broken up 3-4 different groups. and scorp didnt have his cell # on the directions which he should have done, so that we can tell him to wait so that everyone can catch up. another thing is that one of the guys who was in the Immola Red was trying to contact people with the walkie talkies on channel 71 or channel 7, and no one was answering. Im sure that if we would have gone as a group, not speeding and keeping a straight line throughout the canyon, this would have never happened.""
-http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137540
Amazing how many forums this is going around.
Here is my perception of what happened:
I was in Scott's car (the guy with the E46 328i) and we were going about 60 and when we turn that corner, we see a mountain of flames. I was saying to myself please dont let it be one of the M's. when we got closer to the scene, i saw the M rim, and I saw that it was the Immola Red M3. I jetted out of the car, and started running towards the car, I hear some guy screaming for help, then when I get closer to the car, I hear three pops so I backed off. then the screaming from James ended. I knew that his life was over. there was nothing that anyone could do.
One of the guys is another M3 say his best friend burn to death, it wasnt a pretty site. There were a total of 4 E46 M3's , 1 burned down, 1 passed them up, and 2 stayed behind and helped out.
Then a whole bunch of motorist from both sides of traffic stopped their cars, and began helping out. one lady in a red civic hb had her window rolled down and said "thats what you ****ers get for street racing" everyone tried to call 911, but it was giving us the busy signal. and finally someone got through.
After Scott called 911, some guy in a truck comes up to the silver E46 M3 and asks "whose car is this" and then Socal M3 was on his cell phone, and says "its mine" and then the guy said "well come over here and sit on the curb, your being detained" after that, he busts out his badge. and then one passer by said "your a cop, thank god" and thats when me, scott, and the two guys in the TI's said **** it, we dont want to get involved, so we turned around and left, coz we couldnt handle **** like that.
I think the reason why this happened was that the guy in the Immola Red M3 wanted to beat the SMG Black M3, we all knew that he wasnt going to do it, the SMG M3 was just too fast, but then this guy was so determined to beat him, and he just couldnt do it, which resulted in him causing him to lose his car, someone else's life, and putting someone else in jeopardy.
Its obvious that the guy in the Immola Red is going be in jail these are some of the reasons why:
1. Street Racing (felony)
2. 1st Degree Murder (life in prison w/ or w/o parole)
3. Speeding
4. Exceeding 100 mph (felony)
5. Endangering Passengers
I dont know much more about it, but I think that everyone who attended this meet, should find out when the funeral services are, and to attended, its the least that we can do, considering that most people dont know who he is, but he didnt deserve this, to end his life at an early age.
This meet wouldnt have ended if everyone went on the run as a group, instead of running red lights, and speeding and cutting people off. we were broken up 3-4 different groups. and scorp didnt have his cell # on the directions which he should have done, so that we can tell him to wait so that everyone can catch up. another thing is that one of the guys who was in the Immola Red was trying to contact people with the walkie talkies on channel 71 or channel 7, and no one was answering. Im sure that if we would have gone as a group, not speeding and keeping a straight line throughout the canyon, this would have never happened.""
-http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=137540
Amazing how many forums this is going around.
For more info. read from the beginning of that thread.
Don't just say "ok i learned my lesson", apply what you've read and be a safer driver. How would you like to kill your friend?
I'm not a very sensitive guy, but this has really touched me.
Rest in peace James
-ak
Last edited by ak; Oct 7, 2003 at 11:54 AM.
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Truly sad i live like 1 min down the road from where that happend a horrible accident and my heart felt sorrow goes out to the passenger that died and the guilt the driver has to live with for the rest fo his life . Unfortunatly that and the other canyons around it seem to have there share of fatalitys a friend of mine from high school died in trabuco canyon which is right by there going thru to fast and hit some dirt on the road and went of a cliff killed himself and injured a passenger . Dont speed people its not safe and it hurts or kills other people think of that before you speed . Rest in Peace James i didnt know you but its really sad you had to die so young and for no reason
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You never imagine it will happen to you...My condolences go out to everyone involved in this whole incident. We've lost too many loved members of the automotive community to instances like this.
Be safe out there guys...know your car and know your limits.
-Jacob
Be safe out there guys...know your car and know your limits.
-Jacob
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Even more sad: After the driver and front passenger escaped from the car, others tried to rescue the rear passenger. The car exploded right before they got to it...
They are going to create a paypal account for donations. The money will go toward flowers for the family. I'll post the address as soon as it is setup.
I'm donating eventhough I don't know them personally. Sometimes you don't need to be part of their forums/family to understand and feel the way they do.
They are going to create a paypal account for donations. The money will go toward flowers for the family. I'll post the address as soon as it is setup.
I'm donating eventhough I don't know them personally. Sometimes you don't need to be part of their forums/family to understand and feel the way they do.
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I'm probably going to take lots of **** for this but here it goes...
"1. Street Racing (felony)
2. 1st Degree Murder (life in prison w/ or w/o parole)
3. Speeding
4. Exceeding 100 mph (felony)
5. Endangering Passengers"
it's not 1st degree murder, 1st degree is when you plan on murdering someone, it would actually be vehicular man slaughter. My brother was killed by his best friend cause he was drunk at the time, went around a corner too fast and flipped the car.
I feel sorry for those involved, but if you hop in the car with someone you give your life to them, it's a risk you willingly take, I'm sure the driver feels shitty as all hell, but the passengers are also at fault for allowing themselves to be put in that situation.
"1. Street Racing (felony)
2. 1st Degree Murder (life in prison w/ or w/o parole)
3. Speeding
4. Exceeding 100 mph (felony)
5. Endangering Passengers"
it's not 1st degree murder, 1st degree is when you plan on murdering someone, it would actually be vehicular man slaughter. My brother was killed by his best friend cause he was drunk at the time, went around a corner too fast and flipped the car.
I feel sorry for those involved, but if you hop in the car with someone you give your life to them, it's a risk you willingly take, I'm sure the driver feels shitty as all hell, but the passengers are also at fault for allowing themselves to be put in that situation.
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yea i heard about that...sucks to be stupid...not being responsible is a big part of all that. Going insane through the canyons and being unsafe is not what its all about. Canyon runnin like that is the stupid and dangerous.
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Originally posted by MangoEX
My question is... why was fuel leaking? BMW should be sued!
My question is... why was fuel leaking? BMW should be sued!
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I live right on the top of the windy hill going up from santiago and trabuco canyon... I used to speed through there all the time, nothing over 60...
Cops have been patrolling more and more and I got too good for the canyon at that speed but I wont go faster...now I only drive it to get to my dad's house....it is fun but you have to know these roads like I do otherwise crap like this happens. Was stupid for him to go 100mph people need to check their egos before jumping in their car, thats what gets them into trouble.
I hope the driver gets prosecuted to the fullest extent, serves him right for being a murderer.
I willing to bet that the guy had no real skills as a driver, just thought he did because he owned an M3.
It isn't what your drive that makes you good, it is how well you can drive it.
Cops have been patrolling more and more and I got too good for the canyon at that speed but I wont go faster...now I only drive it to get to my dad's house....it is fun but you have to know these roads like I do otherwise crap like this happens. Was stupid for him to go 100mph people need to check their egos before jumping in their car, thats what gets them into trouble.
I hope the driver gets prosecuted to the fullest extent, serves him right for being a murderer.
I willing to bet that the guy had no real skills as a driver, just thought he did because he owned an M3.
It isn't what your drive that makes you good, it is how well you can drive it.
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people need to check their egos before jumping in their car, thats what gets them into trouble.
I willing to bet that the guy had no real skills as a driver, just thought he did because he owned an M3.
It isn't what your drive that makes you good, it is how well you can drive it.
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