grncivic2001

ok i was taking my gf out to dinner the other day and it just started to snow and all so the roads where not to terrible to race on. i was stuck at a light and i noticed halogens behind me so when the light turned green my eyes were stuck on the road and the rear view mirror. i saw him get in front of the guy beside me and get next to me and slowed down i just kept looking at the road didnt even want to look cuz all i could hear was the sound of his bov going off over and over. so i said what the hell gave the 3 honks and we were off. "we started bout 40mph roll on going down hill" i threw it in 2nd and i pull to bout 1/2 car then i made a very good **** into 3rd no car movment at all and in 3rd he pulled on me but didnt pass me i was bout 1 foot ahead of this guy and then i heard his bov and he hit his brakes so i thought cop or somthin so i hit my brakes. then he just throws it back in low gear and passes me like he had the fastest car on the road now after the race and all i was very confused because i thought i would have gotton my **** handed to me but didnt. the car the other guy was driving was a talon tsi with the stupid looking stock spoilers that are right by the rear window it looked like he had stock wheels and a little fart can. my civic is a 01 ex manual custom exhaust 2.5",18" tenzo-r wheels with proxy rubbers and tenzo-r intake. so this guy was either a very bad driver or it was my lucky day or he was spinning his tires but i thought tsi were awd so i dont know. thats my encounter with a talon we never went over 90 mph confused so would this be considered a win or what

swifty2k

You shoud have gotten killed.... Some of the turbo talons are FWD though... considering it just started snowing, he could have been spinning....

familycar

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dayum you **** while going into third and the car didnt move?????

bgoetz

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the tsi is a FWD and realistically our cars cannot even come close to hanging with them. The only one tha I ran I lost by a good few cars two of the three runs and won the thrid (not sure what he did). Modded boosted DSMs can be very fast. The best indication of how our cars would do is when I raced a I/h/e esi I won by 1 car at 120 (complete drivers race all day). Now that is the nonboosted version.

MajinB

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TSI is AWD not FWD. its an eclipse copy.

bgoetz

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No the TSX is an AWD, Look it up
Edit: I am incorrect the talon is avalible in the tsi (turboed FWD) and the tsi AWD (turboed AWD). See post below

MajinB

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http://www.internetautoguide.com/rev...le/talon/1995/

But after we had a chance to drive the beefed-up, turbocharged 1995 all-wheel-drive (AWD) Talon TSi

bgoetz

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Sorry, but there is a Talon tsi FWD, it is the same as the eclipse GS-t. And I guess that the AWD version is refered to as the tsi AWD, but it is the same as the eclipse Gsx. Just a missunderstanding. I am guessing by the way that the race went it was the FWD. The AWD would have got him good off the line and never let up.

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1998/eagle/talon/index.html

http://www.edmunds.com/used/1998/mit...pse/index.html

Michalo187

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I think talons are slow pieces of .... Unless they are highly modified i think they suck

ajhdragon

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right now i can beat the turbo DSM's no problem. unless thier running higher boost and fuel upgrade. but stock are easy they start to get a little hard to hang with when the guy is boosting over 12psi(there is only so far you can push a garrett non-bb t25). i think stock they run like 7 or 8.

se7engen_riDe

LMAO!

Mr_Casual

Well what ever happen your car was ahead of his so in my opinion take the win. In any other condition without major major mods on a civic ex I'm talking motor swap and all the goodies a Turbod eclipse will walk you morning noon and night.

exturbo6

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most poeple with dsm's are not running low boost. everyone i know is running 15 and up.

except for the evo, thats running 28lbs.

familycar

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most gst and gsx or tsi's i know of are running atleast 20lbs as well. that is low boost for those cars.

exturbo6

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yeah i gave up on the civic, im to buy a real car with a base.

gangrel138

My friend has an almost stock 2nd gen tsi sitting in the parking lot and I can assure you it is AWD. I've been up underneath it and seen the driveshaft for myself. If you don't believe me I can go take some pictures.

Jrfish007

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Well... drivers make everything happen I have drive a couple AWD cars, and found they are a pain to launch correctly, they really bog if you don't have just the right RPM. I'm not saying FWD is better, I'm just saying FWD CAN be on certian cars more stupid proof to luanch.

And also, from a roll, AWD is bad. For instance, the tranny and transfer case in my truck consume 30% of the power produced by the engine, normal manuals conusme about 16% and auto's around 18-20%.

ShoelessEX

Maybe if the guy was driving a stock auto with 5 fat people in the car...then I can believe that story

blouisgod

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you shoulda gotten killed on any normal day. but congrats i guess...

BigBoost

I say its a kill. The race was over when he hit his brakes.
Im only running 16psi on my talon and I can brake all 4 tires loose from a 45 roll on wet pavement. So it is possible that he was spinning but I think its more likely that he was just stock and couldnt drive for crap.
Sounds like he only hit his brakes so you would slow down and he could pretend he won. some people are idiots and shouldnt be allowed to drive. Unfortunalty this one decided to buy a DSM.
DSM's can be very fast but in the hands of a moron any car is slow.

peace