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about whether to keep modding my engine or to get wheels/shocks/tires package. I dread modding my suspension. Although I think it's phat, it's just too expensive. I really like the wheels on tornactive, the Rotas, but the Koni yellows cost more than all 4 wheels combined, what's up with that? I'm leaning towards doing the wheels and stuff last. I guess I'm just looking for support and maybe someone to tell me it's worth doing. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG]

 
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what your priority? show or go? i personally am not willing to spend thousands of dollars on the engine, maybe if it was a sports car yes, but its not so i'm just going for show... but ya rims is a must. but whats worse then looking like your driving a 4x4 with new rims... so ya i think you should drop it... and you dont HAVE to buy new shocks. alot of people including i havnt... i have neuspeed sports and i'm hoping my shocks last atleast 2 more years... the ride isnt too badd either. total cost was 210. 140 for springs and 70 for install. you might want to get a camber kit which is another 125 but i didn't... also an alignment is recommended but i didn't get one either. but ya it doesnt HAVE to be expensive although it can be.

 
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Nothing against guys (or girls) with engine mods, but you will be spending a good chunk of change and without forced induction or Nitrous you will only be getting 8-20 hp.

I would go with the wheels and suspension, like vnil said it doesn't have to be expensive but if you want to save some hastle and headach do it right the first time.

Shocks
Coilovers/springs
camber kit
wheels

 
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The only engine mods I want to do is the plasma ignition coils and Denso Iridium spark plugs. Maybe a port and polish. By then that would be a cool grand. I am kinda confused, don't know where to start.

 
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dunno what you consider xpensive but i am goin to get eibach sportlines,koni's, and a camber kit, all of that is right at thousand.... and if u get an intake,header,exhaust thats also right at a thousand and u get what.......5hp, i say drop it, it will look alot better and just leave the engine alone till everything else is done by that time there will actually/hopefully be some new stuff out there for the engine that might do something or at least give you some more options

 
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Definitly wheels, if not u will regret later

 
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According to a test, the stock shocks won't last more than 25,000 miles w/ lowered suspension.

 
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according to whos test? and what were the variables? i dont think that would be a very accurate thing to say for them. cause it really depends on alot of things... how you drive, where you drive, how low the car is, etc... i have heard of people blowing them the first 100 miles with prokit and some going for many years with even a 2" drop. but ya where exactly did you read this cause i'd be interested to find out how they got 25,000 miles. it would also depend on the car as well... my friend had sportlines on his camry and the stock shocks lasted atleast 3 years.. not sure how long exactly cause he sold the car before it did.

 
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This is a line from the article:

Having been the test bed for several suspension alternatives, the stock struts were basically destroyed. One was leaking terribly, and the others were simply worn out at only 22,000 miles, another reason to think hard about what springs you're going to put on your car.

and here's a Link from hondatuningmagazine.com

 
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That's test done on *one* set of shocks, not test on a sample of em.

But it's very random, coz even shocks on a show car that's dropped and not driven can blow just from being in that state of compression over time.

I'd say if you lower your car, expect to *need* to upgrade your shocks at any time when the stock ones blow.

 
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eh, that test doesnt even say what springs were used. you dont know if it was stock springs or 3" drop springs. maybe if they gave a more detailed review about it i would agree. but ya it varies alot so i try not to give a time period of when someones shocks are going to last.. even if it was accurate, 22,000 miles is about 2 years so its long enough for me...

 
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I say get an intake and exhaust...catback or axel back...then stop...Thats just my opinion though. To each is own...especially if you have the money

 
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ok, this may sound like a stupid question, but, i havent seen an answer and have never been told, why would the stock ones blow. heres what i used to think: i always thought that you HAD to replace the shocks with shocks for lowered cars b/c of there beeing less suspension travel. i thought that theyd bottom out in the cylinder a lot and that would cause something to bend, blow, whatever. but then i started reading some of the posts ion this forum and i was a little confused. now, i will probably save for the shocks when i get my springs anyway, but i was just wondering that.

thanks.

 
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stock ones would blow because.. you have more stress on the shocks due to it being compressed 2" inches constantly. also you put more stress by having stiffer spring rates(stiffer spring rates are needed to prevent the car from rubbing/bottoming out, etc...).
"i always thought that you HAD to replace the shocks with shocks for lowered cars b/c of there beeing less suspension travel" there is less suspension travel because of the stiffer springs but that doesnt mean you cant use it...
"i thought that theyd bottom out in the cylinder a lot and that would cause something to bend, blow, whatever". imagine the shock... its has 8"(just an example) of shock travel. but then you have the bumpstop which is 3". so you have 5" of shock travel before you bottom out. with 2" lowering springs you have 3" of shock travel, so you cut the bumpstop a lil bit to give you more shock travel. also since you have stiffer springs your shocks arent going to travel much anyways.
so ya you dont HAVE to get new shocks but it is recommended. stock shocks arent designed to take that extra stress so its going to blow faster then usual and the ride isnt going to be as good.