Koni yellows with Sportlines???
Koni yellows with Sportlines???
I have sportline kit on stock struts on 2001 sedan. I'm sure the struts arent blown yet but probably will soon so my question is that i want to add some koni yellows but first i wanna know if the shocks will pick it up a lil bit in the rear because right now they are extra tucked in and i have nothing in the trunk. I was also wondering if anyone has the koni yellow kit that comes with the koni springs and koni shocks and if the rear still sags with this kit? All i want is my car to look even in the front and rear i already have a camber kit. If not then anyone else recomend something to fix my situation?
Thanx for the help so far. The rear shocks could be blown but what i wanna know is if i install the koni's will the front and rear look even cuz right now the rear sags ever since i installed the sportline springs. So they have two settings?One stock height and one an inch higher then the stock height? I dont understand where stock would sit at?
Well so far i guess i am going to get the Koni yellows and put it on the "towing" position because i am getting a box with three 10 inch subs and 2 amps so that gonna put a lot of weight in the rear. $580 shipped to cali is the cheapest i found so far.
Well, i guess you never got our PM's. Koni yellows are racing shocks. They will just be overpriced and useless for your application.
Spring rates are what "keeps the back up" if you wanna put it that way. A stiffer spring in the rear will keep the back up with your weight. But again, its your car and your choice.
I recomend:
Tokico HP shocks. NOn adjustable, better than stock by far and cheaper than koni's by $200!!! They will do the same thing you want and have a smooth ride as well.
Cost: $399 shipped
Spring rates are what "keeps the back up" if you wanna put it that way. A stiffer spring in the rear will keep the back up with your weight. But again, its your car and your choice.
I recomend:
Tokico HP shocks. NOn adjustable, better than stock by far and cheaper than koni's by $200!!! They will do the same thing you want and have a smooth ride as well.
Cost: $399 shipped
I replaced my stock shocks with Tokicos after I had got new Neuspeed Sports. The front stock struts were worse than the rear. My car sat nice with the stock shocks. After I replaced them it sat a little higher in the rear
My g/f is also running the exact same setup on her 01 coupe. I will be installing the sportlines as soon as she gets the koni yellows. I wasn't aware there was a towing setting? That is actually nice for the winter. Also, how do you adjust to shocks/struts. Do you have to take them out to do so?
Thanks for the info,
James
Thanks for the info,
James
Not to get in an argument here, but Koni yellows are not "racing" shocks. They have a digressive type valve stack and have a valving that is only useful for lower spring rates (under about 450lb/in.). Konis are rebuildable, however, and can be revalved for your specific spring rate. The big advantage to the Konis is that unlike other "adjustable" shocks on the market that just limit fluid flow to the outer tube, the adjuster on the Konis only effects the rebound stroke. AKA: Illuminas, DSpecs and all the other shocks that are 'adjustable' adjust both compression and rebound. Konis only adjust rebound. A true 'Racing' shock would have linear valving in it, which would be almost unstreetable, and would most likley have independent compression and rebound adjustments.
Originally Posted by boostaddict
Not to get in an argument here, but Koni yellows are not "racing" shocks. They have a digressive type valve stack and have a valving that is only useful for lower spring rates (under about 450lb/in.). Konis are rebuildable, however, and can be revalved for your specific spring rate. The big advantage to the Konis is that unlike other "adjustable" shocks on the market that just limit fluid flow to the outer tube, the adjuster on the Konis only effects the rebound stroke. AKA: Illuminas, DSpecs and all the other shocks that are 'adjustable' adjust both compression and rebound. Konis only adjust rebound. A true 'Racing' shock would have linear valving in it, which would be almost unstreetable, and would most likley have independent compression and rebound adjustments.
I am not nessecarily saying Konis are "better" all around than any other shock, I was just explaining that they are different. The combined compression/rebound circuits on the tokickos appeals to many, it gives you the ability to firm up and loosen up your suspension with a ****. Everyone has a prefrence, and some parts will appeal to some, others to the rest. If you are happy with your car, then I applaud you, a car that you are happy with is one of the best feelings in the world.
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Originally Posted by boostaddict
Not to get in an argument here, but Koni yellows are not "racing" shocks. They have a digressive type valve stack and have a valving that is only useful for lower spring rates (under about 450lb/in.). Konis are rebuildable, however, and can be revalved for your specific spring rate. The big advantage to the Konis is that unlike other "adjustable" shocks on the market that just limit fluid flow to the outer tube, the adjuster on the Konis only effects the rebound stroke. AKA: Illuminas, DSpecs and all the other shocks that are 'adjustable' adjust both compression and rebound. Konis only adjust rebound. A true 'Racing' shock would have linear valving in it, which would be almost unstreetable, and would most likley have independent compression and rebound adjustments.
Not really dissagreeing here, but from talking with the guys over at SCCAforums, the general concensis is that OTS Konis don't really need to be revalved untill your spring rates start exceeding the 550LB/in range... Though many people do run them with stiffer springs. May not be the best idea, but they do pretty well any ways.
I agree. I am currently running 550lb/in out back and have mine turned all the way up, not quite happy with it, but it is completley liveable. On the other hand, I am never a fan of running stuff at the edge/limit. I have been talking to the guys over at Truechoice and they definatley recommended revalving my shocks for that spring rate. I should be able to do it and have some impressions soon, but my truck broke, I have to fix that first.
how do you revalve koni struts? who does it? and what would i need to do this my self? if any one knows please let me know, that may be the solution to keeping my front koni from leaking the oil out the adjustment ****.
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Originally Posted by Diablo
how do you revalve koni struts? who does it? and what would i need to do this my self? if any one knows please let me know, that may be the solution to keeping my front koni from leaking the oil out the adjustment ****.
Koni Has their own shop services, but there are several other shops that rebuild repair and revalve Konis.
BTW, if your Konis are leaking, I'd email Koni. they may be under warrenty.
other wise heres their shop services page
http://www.koniracing.com/shopservices.html
Ive had them replaced a few times already. i guess Koni ain't made for lowering spring that are more than 1". my H&R blew them now i have 2 front and 1 rear leaking with brand new Neuspeed sports.
Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Koni Has their own shop services, but there are several other shops that rebuild repair and revalve Konis.
BTW, if your Konis are leaking, I'd email Koni. they may be under warrenty.
other wise heres their shop services page
http://www.koniracing.com/shopservices.html
BTW, if your Konis are leaking, I'd email Koni. they may be under warrenty.
other wise heres their shop services page
http://www.koniracing.com/shopservices.html
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Originally Posted by Diablo
Ive had them replaced a few times already. i guess Koni ain't made for lowering spring that are more than 1". my H&R blew them now i have 2 front and 1 rear leaking with brand new Neuspeed sports.
Konis are designed to work at any ride height, the problem is that they are designed with just about the same dimentions as stock. which means that as you lower the car you reduce shock travle making bottoming them out much more probable. and if you bottom them out you will destroy them.
Here's an Idea. Contact Koni, not only can they rebuild the damper, but they can also shorten it, giving you more suspension travle making it much less likely to bottom them out.
Not sure on the cost, I've see revalving done for as little as $60 a damper, but you're best bet is to call them and get a quote. alternatly http://www.propartsusa.com/ also rebuilds and revalves konis.. call both and get quotes form both. (Make sure to tell them that you are looking to get the dampers shortend and rebuilt...)
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Originally Posted by eye_see_you
its funny I had no issues with the tokico hp and eaibach sportlines
On the same token I've had no issues with my Konis and Sportlines. Why do we care that you havent have any issues with you Tokicos? This is a Koni/Sportline thread.. also why did you ***** pics of your car in here? Like we care about that.. btw it looks like *** anyway.
Originally Posted by flotsamm
On the same token I've had no issues with my Konis and Sportlines. Why do we care that you havent have any issues with you Tokicos? This is a Koni/Sportline thread.. also why did you ***** pics of your car in here? Like we care about that.. btw it looks like *** anyway.
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Not to get off topic here, but i figured it would go in here best because i am also about to install koni yellows w/ eibach sportlines.
Which setting would be the best ride quality, for the koni's? Like i said, i will be running sportlines and i would like the smoothest ride possible.
Which setting would be the best ride quality, for the koni's? Like i said, i will be running sportlines and i would like the smoothest ride possible.
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Originally Posted by 5.0calypso93lx
Not to get off topic here, but i figured it would go in here best because i am also about to install koni yellows w/ eibach sportlines.
Which setting would be the best ride quality, for the koni's? Like i said, i will be running sportlines and i would like the smoothest ride possible.
Which setting would be the best ride quality, for the koni's? Like i said, i will be running sportlines and i would like the smoothest ride possible.
Originally Posted by Zzyzx
The adjustment **** on the konis doenst have a whole hell of a lot to do with adjusting ride qualtiy.... its more for adjusting your oversteer/understeer balance. this isnt to say that they dont influence ride quality a bit, but its not their primary function. either way full soft would give you the "softest" ride possible with them.
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