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Okay, I recently installed my Hayame V2 Coilovers in place of my stock suspension with H&R Lowering Springs....

One major difference is stiffness, however I am wondering if anyone knows anything about how much the car jerks side to side by itself....what I mean is...when traveling on a slightly bumpy road when the wheel/tire hit the bump the car basically leans that way quickly...almost like the response it notched up 1000%...before it did not do this. I have been able to feel the road quite well before with the H&R Springs but not like this. The car dips and turns into bumps and crevices now like never before. I am going to get the car aligned but from what I have read I dont know if that will fix the problem, or whether its even a problem...maybe Im not used to this harsh, low of a suspension setup?

btw, I know there are alot of Hayame bashers on the site...I am well aware...I will admit other than what is listed above they corner very well...

 
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BUMP - someone has to be able to offer some info...

 
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You still not get your alignment? I think you should do that first b4 asking the question.

 
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No havent gotten an alignment but have done some brief research and have noticed that sometimes alignments dont always remedy a situation....reason I am asking is b/c someone has to know if this is due to the Hayame's, the road, an alignment, etc.

The more I drive it the less I think it has to do with alignment issues...of course I dont know this for sure but thats why I am asking...

I did a little test today...took the car out on a straight, very smooth road. The car did not lean to the left or to the right...it stayed very straight. Only issue is that the steering wheel shakes a bit at about 65mph.

 
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Double check all the bolts and make sure they are tight. Since you flip your tie rods to install hayame I think you really need to get an alignment b4 making a judgement. Since hayame is stiffer of course you will feel the road more. What size of tires are you running?

 
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Currently Im at: 215/45/17......however, I have just purchased (2-days ago) a new set of 16" lightweight wheels (about 4.5 lbs lighter per wheel than the 17's) w/ 205/50/16, Im thinking I should notice a noticeable difference with my new wheel/tire setup.....I am getting an alignment next week so that should give me some more info..?

 
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When I installed my Hayames (v2) I flipped the tie rods and that threw my front toe WAY off. I could barely drive the car home, and had to get an alignment right away. When I went to get it done, the guys working the shop had trouble getting my car up the ramp cause of the toe out on both front wheels. Get your alignment before you worry about the coilovers. I guarantee your front wheels are wearing extraordinarily fast too.
If it's not the alignment it could be a loose bolt somewhere, as dacivic said. Check the locking perch ring thingies. They should all be very tight. As well, check the 19mm nut at the top of the Hayames as well. The one in the middle of the 3 mounting bolts? Mine were loose when I installed, and when I figured out that I had to tighten that, a lot of noise went away.
The feeling of increased bumpiness comes with the territory when you install an upgraded suspension component.

 
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Hey dude I had Hayames on my car and that is just how they are. Everyone that has installed them recieves severe bump steer, when you hit a hole or a bump your steering wheel will jerk left or right really fast, it's mainly due to the design of the system. By turning the tie-rod 180 degrees like you did, thats why you recieve the major bump steer. The issue cannot be resolved and you will have that the entire time.

But yes, make sure everything is tight, which i'm sure it probably is, and hope you are satisified with the setup. They take some getting used to, they ride pretty nice when they work for you. One thing to be aware of though, lift your front end off the ground so both and grab your front tires and see if they feel like they are mounted solid on the rotors of see if they wiggle left or right at all. If they wiggle left or right, take them off, cuz it'll screw up your tire in a matter of miles because everytime you hit a bump in the road, it's going to adjust the toe of the front tires causing extreme wear. So just an FYI and hope you dont go thru a set of brand new tires like I did in a months time.

Good luck with the Hayames, they are a nice setup for the money when and if they work.

 
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Agreed ^.

 
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Thanks so much for the replies, all of you. Well as I've said before I am getting an alignment this weekend...but I drive approx. 60 miles a day so I will easily be putting a couple hundred miles on the car before I have it aligned. The tires shouldnt wear THAT fast should they? As for the toe issues and tire wear...that sounds very scary and dangerous! I dont feel at all like Im in danger of losing control or anything like that. In fact the car actually handles like its on rails. I did notice the tires squeeled a bit when taking a turn quickly but that was probably me pushing the limit

I had Skunk2 Coils (not true coilovers) on my 97 civic I owned, and had Comptech Springs on my RSX-S I owned....I must say this car IMO DOES outhandle both of those cars...only downsize is it rides like POO - Im going to have to make sure the toe gets taken care of

 
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When your tires squeeled when u jerked the wheel quickly was due to the toe alignment man. I had the same issue prior ot alignment when i first got them installed. Also regarding how the tires can wear fast, please read the first part of this thread that i posed and check the pictures below.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=170855

It will show you the extreme tire wear that happened in less than a months time with less than 600 miles on that tire. Completely ruined, notice the tread from each tire.

 
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HOLY ****!

I realllly wish I would have seen that post before
buying those Hayame's!!!! So even if I get it aligned
it will go back the way it was after hitting a bump?
Secondly, how do I know whether my shocks/struts are
blown....?

I am going to look at my tires tomorrow morning to see
if I notice anything unusual...this is some scary
****....

What are your suggestions? I cannot return this set of
Hayame's because I bought it from a private seller not
a company.....HELP!

Advice?

 
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Speaking again as one of only a tiny minority of people who actually like their Hayames - my tire wear for the last few months has been pretty good - I borrowed a set of stock rims from a friend while saving for winter rubber, since I got rid of my summers a little while ago. The fronts of course are worn a little bit more than the rear, but nothing out of the ordinary.
If you don't have any kind of receipt or anything for them, then I hate to say it bud, but you're kinda out of luck unless you can sell them off to someone else (likely no one on this board).

 
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You said your steering wheel is shaking at about 65.. that could be a balance issue in your front tires.. have them rotated and balanced, or just balanced and see if that clears up shaking in the steering wheel.. also check to see if you have a bent rim.. that can cause a vibration too at high speeds.

 
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Balance can also cause irregular tire wear can it not?

 
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You mean out of balance? Yes out of balance can cause irregular tires wear.

04redcivp did you make your lower bracket holes bigger (from 14mm to 16mm) since you have an 04? Like I said b4 you should get an alignment asap b4 making a judgement.

 
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yeah alignment alignment alignment.
also the the upgraded tires tend to track the cracks on the road a lot
the vibrating is usually caused by the wheel balancing being off.

 
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Yes I put new wheels and tires on the car this past weekend...that fixed the 60-70mph shimmy....so obviously my old set was not balanced correctly.

Im still looking for a shop to do an alignment though...I took it to honda this past weekend but they said they couldnt do the alignment because my car was too low and they couldnt fit the 'jack'' under my car to lift it up without scratching my ground effects....arghhh!!!

I need to find a shop that can actually support a lowered suspension...something that comes out of the gound instead of something you have to drive up on...

 
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The shop that did my alignment had to put long wooden boards down to extend the ramp (and thus decrease the angle of entry) so my car could get up onto the rack.

 
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Thats a good idea...unfortunately I've made an appt. at a shop that has the 'old style' that comes up from underneath the ground so I wont have any problems....only issue is that the alignment is running me 100.00 and thats if they dont have to do anything crazy to it...

 
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WTF that's nuts. I paid $80 (CDN) to have them adjust the toe and tell me I needed a camber kit. I thanked them for adjusting toe and told them to stop tryin to sell me a camber kit.

 
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Ohh..this i gotta hear...I was talking with them on the phone and the guy said it would be a base price of 100.00 to check it out and adjust 'what they could' if they needed further work it would be additional...I was like ok whatever....due to the fact that this is the only place I have been able to find...HOWEVER it was always my understanding that they can adjust the toe without you needing a camber kit, correct? And the toe is what wears the tires faster than anything else, correct? So cant I just tell them to fix the toe and be done with it...or is a kit really all that necessary?

 
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there's 3 parts to an alignment
toe, camber and caster.
yeah the toe is pretty much the most important but camber is pretty important too.
toe they should be able to adjust without any additional parts.
the camber kit is only needed to adjust the camber and yeah if your that low i would recommend it.
caster, eh you really dont have to worry about it unless if something's bent.

 
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Okay ANOTHER QUESTION:

Yesterday was the first day I have driven my car in the rain since having it lowered with the Hayame Coilovers...

I honestly felt like I couldnt control the car....I said earlier that it seemed to sort of jerk in and out of bumps and grooves in the road right? No big deal for dry weather but.....Well with the rain it does this but almost makes it feel like I am hydroplaning....the wheels just goes one way on its own and I have to correct it...feels like Im in snow or something.....anyone know whether this has to do with the suspension STILL needing an alignment or is something else possibly wrong? I changed wheels/tires and it did the same thing so its not the wheels/tires...
I NEVER had this problem with my stock shocks and H&R springs (1.3") but my guess is that now that its lowered 2.25" and the toe is way out of whack (you can visibly tell the tire is pointing inward) that maybe that is causing this...PLEASE HELP....Im scared to drive my car..LOL...honestly though this is very bad!

 
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It's your alignment!

The day I lowered my car on my Hayames it WAS raining, and it wasn't a fun drive home, I kept fighting the wheel to keep my car straight. I'll say it again, get the alignment before you start worrying about the problem being something else. I'm tellin ya, the fact that your toe is all over the place right now is the reason you're fighting the wheel so much. And yes, it IS scary, get that alignment before you drive it another mile. Your tires will thank you.