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Old Nov 11, 2004
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A wheel lifting off the ground when turning

I was taking a 90 degree turn one day in a residention area and i was only doing maybe 25 and i took the turn rather wide and i got a good amount of of understeer. A friend was following me and he said that my inside rear tire acually came of the ground when i turned which would explain the understeer. Is that something to be worried about, or is that somewhat common even though I have done tighter faster turns and had no problems? Every thing is stock btw.
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If your wheel came off the ground then you have oversteer, not understeer.
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yes it happens. Watch some autox videos or look at some pictures. Spec-Vs are notorious for it. Nothing is wrong. You just took the turn too fast
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youre fine, didnt think stock could lift off the ground without a bump.
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when im turning and i hit a bump the rear end hops out.
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^^^ the rear end in my stock suspension always hops up and out in high speed corners with a bump. = (
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is this a stock civic or some other car? because the rear suspension on the civic is kinda soft to lift off the ground, and unless its wet out its REALLY hard to oversteer the civic.

but next time be more careful in residential areas. you dont know if there are kids around the corner.
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Is it possible for the civic ex coupe to tip over, or that could never happen?
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Originally Posted by nindoo
Is it possible for the civic ex coupe to tip over, or that could never happen?
anything is possible, but it is unlikely.
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Originally Posted by PbFoot
is this a stock civic or some other car? because the rear suspension on the civic is kinda soft to lift off the ground, and unless its wet out its REALLY hard to oversteer the civic.

but next time be more careful in residential areas. you dont know if there are kids around the corner.
i have a REALLY tight off-camber u-turn that goes into my work. I thought that it was impossible to oversteer this thing until I got brave one day. Oh what fun.....
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Originally Posted by nindoo
Is it possible for the civic ex coupe to tip over, or that could never happen?
Let us know when you find out!
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Originally Posted by nindoo
Is it possible for the civic ex coupe to tip over, or that could never happen?


Its actually quite hard to roll a car nowadays... and it ushually takes a number of actions to get the car to do it too. the simplest way though is to side sideways in to something soft, like sand or dirt.



BTW, its VERY common for a FWD car to lift a tire under hard cornering. all it takes is grippy tires, or heavy braking just before a sharp turn, or tuning the chassis.. In racing its generally accepted that a well tuned FWD car should just bairly lift the rear inside wheel when it reaches its limits of traction.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
^^^ the rear end in my stock suspension always hops up and out in high speed corners with a bump. = (

Thats a damper issue... what ever dampers you are running are too soft for what ever springs you are running.
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Hey!, as some auto Xing enthusiasts would say:

LIFE IS BETTER ON THREE WHEELS
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Originally Posted by cubanmike26
Hey!, as some auto Xing enthusiasts would say:

LIFE IS BETTER ON THREE WHEELS
It's even better if you can get closer to being two wheels
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thats not in any way good for your car especially if its stock but i cant bitch cus i once got my 96 lx sedan on two wheels with the ebrake ant the wheels werent just a lil up they were a good 12-16 inches up (thats when the oh sh.it handle works well)
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yup i got stock suspension with 17in rims. when im takin a turn fast and i hit the bump the rear hops outward. feels weird
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Instability while hitting bumps in a corner is ushually a shock issue.
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wheels lifting aside, some of you people seriously need to learn how to drive. i mean even if i believed that you could get 2 wheels of a stock 96 LX civic more than a foot in the air, hows that something to be proud of dude?
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Thats a damper issue... what ever dampers you are running are too soft for what ever springs you are running.
Yeah, I know, I remember you saying, stock civic is way under dampended, and I agree.... sucks.... but I have what I have for now.
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life truly is better on 3 wheels.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
If your wheel came off the ground then you have oversteer, not understeer.
isn't it understeer when the car is sliding to the outside of the turn, bc thats what happened. Oversteer is drifting, which wasn't what my car was doing, it was sliding to the outside of the turn and I had to hit the brakes to keep the car from hitting the outside curb.
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Originally Posted by PbFoot
wheels lifting aside, some of you people seriously need to learn how to drive. i mean even if i believed that you could get 2 wheels of a stock 96 LX civic more than a foot in the air, hows that something to be proud of dude?
It is something to be proud of in a legal racing situation.
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Originally Posted by ojay
life truly is better on 3 wheels.
life on no wheels is ever better

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Originally Posted by DieselDrummer
isn't it understeer when the car is sliding to the outside of the turn, bc thats what happened. Oversteer is drifting, which wasn't what my car was doing, it was sliding to the outside of the turn and I had to hit the brakes to keep the car from hitting the outside curb.

i think you got those to backwards. you were oversteering.
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He sorta has it right. If the car is plowing, then it is understeer. If the car's tail end is slipping out then it is oversteer. However, you can get a lot of understeer and possibly lift the rear wheel. The tail end doesn't necessarily have to come out in order for the wheel to lift.

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Originally Posted by robbclark1
He sorta has it right. If the car is plowing, then it is understeer. If the car's tail end is slipping out then it is oversteer. However, you can get a lot of oversteer and possibly lift the rear wheel. The tail end doesn't necessarily have to come out in order for the wheel to lift.
exactally, thats what happened, i really don't know what caused it bc i don't think i hit a bump but whatever, at least it isn't extremely bad.
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Originally Posted by ojay
life truly is better on 3 wheels.

Yes it is


Not a lot of wheel lift, but its the best photo I've got showing it...
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Damn, that 205 50 15 almost went up inside the fender well. I've always wondered how much my suspension actually travels when I'm racing.
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yea looks like what probally happened, it is funny though i have taken tighter turns and gone faster and had no problems, although I think the crowning of the road might have effected it, or i think i might have cranked the wheel exactally the right amount at the right time. It is fun to do that though, I once took a banked turned at about 55 and the back end just lost it and I had way too much oversteer to deal with, it was pretty fun to do the whole thing now that I lok back on it bc the car didn't flip (although now i know that is very unlikly) and a car wasn't coming around the corner. I bet with some new tires, it might acually make that turn.
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