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i am going to pick up a used set sometimes next week and how do i tell if the suspension is still in good condition? can some one give me some advice
thanks

 
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dont buy them. Hayames suck, just read everyone elses experience with them in here. Go with something better.

 
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mine are great.

anyways, check for leaks in the strut, and make sure the threads aren't messed up.

 
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hit the search buttom for Hayame, and you'll find ALOT of posts. Most of them are talking about the issues they have.

 
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you and maybe a few others. But a majority of people have had lots of problems with them. IMO, that are shitty.

 
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Just REALLY look them over make sure they're in good condition. Hey jdm_bb, is the guy selling v1 or v2 Hayames? The issues seem to be centered around the new arm design on the v2's (which on mine have no problems still). But I admit, people happy with Hayames are a minority, so make sure the price and condition match up.

 
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are hayames the coilovers that barely lower the car in the back but can slam the car in the front?

 
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i have no problems at all with my hayames, they are the v2's. i got no finger gap all the way around. no problems at all. they are for sale to if you are interested. perfect condition.

 
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I have V1 hayame and I love them, but the ride is too stiff.

 
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ok, where is all the people who have had so many problems with them, well I will find the threads then.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=172460
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=171904
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=170041

 
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That's about 4 people, not including you. Not to hate, but did you even own Hayames at any point in time, or are you just "increasing public awareness" like Fox News?

 
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yes I am increasing public awarness. I have ridden in a civic that had them, ride wasnt that good. And so many people have had problems, there have been many threads about it. If he wants to get them, then thats fine, but dont bitch if he has problems with them.

 
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I had problems with my Hayames. I had 2 different sets sent out to me and both were defective. The rears I had no issues with, i could slam them as low as I wanted and I had no issues. I just had issue with the front struts. The thing that kept going bad on my front Hayames is that when I get them put on the car and put the tires on, i could wiggle the tire left and right when it was bolted on as tight as it would go. Due to that wiggle it caused extreme tire wear on my front tires causing them to be replaced in less than a month. Keep in mind my tires were brand new and than they turned to complete slicks in about 600 miles. Everytime I would hit a bump it would adjust the caster (toe) of the tire shifting it left or right causing extreme wear. The wiggle was due to a defect in the shaft of the strut. It wasnt a tight fit making them defective. Since then i've sent back my Hayames and replaced them with D2's. For all the pain and time and money i've gone through, i could have had a nice set of Tein's installed on my car. So yeah, i learned my lesson the hard way. The $650.00 Hayames went to nearly $1,200 for the final set i'm on including par ts/labor/time ect.. big pain. But i have my D2's installed and just went on a 800 mile trip and they are flawless and ride like stock. Very smooth clean strong ride.

my 2 cents on the Hayames = junk

 
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Did you make sure the camber plate wasn't loose, or the tie rod ends? Sounds like thats what would happen with a defective camber plate.

 
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that right there should tell you something dragon, there are people who think they are junk. I am just waiting untill the rest of the people who hated them respond.

 
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Obviously there are, but your opinion on this is pretty much worthless, since you've never owned them.

edit: Oh, and it's dragoon, with 2 o's, kthxbye.

 
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you can always search for my review..
bottom line, thought it was a good bang for buck. didnt have any problems at all.

 
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streetglower, chill out....

 
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There is no camber plate on them and yes I replaced both the tie rod ends because they got ****ed up after we were told we were supposed to turn the tie rod bar 180 degrees and insert it from the bottom rather from the top like normal. So yeah my tie rods are brand new and both were replaced Part of the pain and additional money i had to put into these things.

It was clearly visible that the shaft inside the strut was defective. When the car was off of the ground and the tires were dangling, we could wiggle them left to right and you could see in the center of the strut that it would move in and out.

 
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I would say it's a hit or miss situation. Some people have them and are satisfied with them and have no known problems and others such as myself have gone through one or two sets of the Haymes (me went thru 2) and find them defective maybe not so immediately but within time. There were just a lot of design flaws and being they were made in China and not Japan. Choose wisely is all i can say.

 
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chill out with what? All I am saying is that hayames suck. So many people had problems with them. Ask Kalligarri, he fuking hated them after having them.

 
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That is fine, but 1) you don't own them and 2) since you don't own them then you shouldn't be pressing the matter so hard. Let people who own them atest to their suckiness.

 
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yea fo realz, i just think it's the installation sometimes.

 
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if you call up spw themselves, you can bargain them to get the v2's at wholeprice ($450). i know because i called them up for spare parts and they offered me to sell a complete brand new set for that price. not sure if it was shipped or not. but best choice is to tell them where ur located and pick them at a local hayame distrubitor shop.