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I heard that the blues raise the back of the car. Has anybody else heard this or was the dude blowing smoke out his a**. I really hope they dont. How about the D-spec?

 
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Regarding my Q about what to measure for konis...

"50 or 55mm is the OUTER diameter of the strut body" <-- this is what i found at the thread a fellow member pointed me too.

 
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Why do aggressive springs destroy OEM shocks. Do aggressive springs redude travel? So doesn't less travel mean that the shocks don't have to work as much?

 
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Why do aggressive springs destroy OEM shocks. Do aggressive springs redude travel? So doesn't less travel mean that the shocks don't have to work as much?


rebound... they make the shocks work much harder than they have to to "keep" the car from bouncing around. - and since they cant sometmes they bottom out also.

 
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So shocks with high rebound, will react better when you hit bumps. they will compress and decompress better with irregularaties in the terrain. But if the shocks have less reistance when you hit bumps how come you get less body roll with high performance shocks?

 
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high speed damping and low speed damping.
hitting a bump is high speed
body roll is low speed
good shocks will seperate the two with better internals.

 
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Need some professional opinons here....i have skunk 2 lowering springs 2.50 front/2.25 rear. i have stock shocks/struts...(have not blown.....yet) im thinking of getting the Tockico HP shock struts. My question is if you guys think im making the right move by getting the tokicos or should i be getting another brand because of the height of my car?...

 
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no, get Konis. Your car is way to low for tokico's.

 
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thanks i think i will.

 
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I need to get shocks bad I have skunk2 drop springs and my rear shocks have been blown out for about 2 months now. There is nothing more embarrasing than hopping around like an idiot while riding next to some hotties. I'll def have to get the konis. Thanks for the info guys

 
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clarification needed from the gurus... I know the two mounting holes need to be drilled, but what about where the tie rod mounts? I've heard that it does and doesn't. Can someone give a definitive answer?

 
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It shouldn't. The tie rods should be the same size for all years. The things that differed between the years is
1) 03+ has 16mm mount holes
2) some cars need 55mm konis, some need 50.

Other than that they should be the same. If you install RSX coils, the tie rod hole will be too large for the tie rod bolt,hence you need RSX endlinks.

Maybe someone else can confirm.

 
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I did a search and it seems as if the EP3 struts will fit the EM2 knuckles. Are all EP3 lower mounting hole diameters 16mm? Also, will the upper mounts for an EP3 fit the EM2? Thanks.

 
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The upper mounts will fit. As far as I know, anything EP3 will fit because they are probably going to be designed for the 03-04. After 04 Honda changed som estuff. Why do you want EP3 struts? Are they oem struts? If so, they are not going to be much better than your current shocks.

 
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I can't get Tokico HPs very easily in Canada. Someone is offering me KYB GR-2s. I wanted to lower my car on neuspeed sportlines, will the KYBs be able to handle the drop? And are they of similar quality as the Tokicos?

 
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I'm just checking to see if EP3 coilovers will work without modifying or drilling anything on 03+ non-si vics. Thanks for the info.

 
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i was wondering if the DSpecs for the Si would fit an 03 coupe.

 
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I know someone posted earlier with the same case as mine but...

I got an 02 EX dropped with Eibach Sportlines just about 2"+. Someone rec. Tokiko's to the guy but didn't specify which ones (the Blue's or the D-Spec's). I don't plan on SERIOUSLY dragging this car out, but I want a nicer ride but also performance for if I ever do need it. I mean, the Sportlines already do a hell of alot compared to stock, but I know that it could be alot better with the aftermarket shocks. Also, how much should I pay for either the Blue's or the D-Spec's? I don't want to get ripped off... Thanks!

 
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OEM 03 EP3 struts fit 03 EM2? just wanted to confirm that.

 
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They should fit, but they won't look right. They have different spring lengths. I suggest not getting them. Why "upgrade" to OEM anyway?

 
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Will Konis give more ride comfort than Tokico hps, on neuspeed sports. Or are both set-ups hard as nails?

 
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well theres a guy selling 03 EP3 struts with konis in them so thats why i was wondering but i've decided not to buy them. i know the konis would fit cuz its the same part# except for the 50/55mm difference. i was planning on using neuspeed sports. i'm thinking of calling up tokico and finding out what the size of the crashbolts are on the 02EP3 DSPECs are.

nindoo, i believe konis are better than tokicos and tokicos are better than OEM.

 
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Next time be more clear . The konis with EM2 springs will work as long as the struts are 14mm and the Konis are the right size.

 
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ahh, sorry about that. i've got an 03 EM2 and from reading a bit at ephatch.com late 02 and 03+ EP3s are 16mm crash bolts. i'm just gonna get konis on my own struts with neuspeed sports and of course a camber kit. thanks for the info though, well appreciated.

EDIT - will i need a front camber kit as well with the neuspeed sport drop? i know i'll def. need a rear camber kit but i'm unsure if the front is needed since the drop is not slammed.

 
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Yeah, you need 16mm bolts. Sorry i thought you had an 01. It is suggested. They are only $20 so why not? They wil allow more adjustability than the OEM crash bolts.

 
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excellent. thanks rob.

 
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So there is no shock that is better than another when it comes to ride comfort for daily driving on lowering springs? The roads are quite horrible here don't want to feel like my is breaking every time I hit a bump.

 
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i know how you feel.

 
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I'm just a little trustrated, I thought I had my lowering strategy all figured out.

I think if I get a spring which is softer with a performance shock I wont feel the bumps as badly as with stiffer springs like the neuspeed sports.

 
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The Hp's will be softer, as Tokico is known to be on the "softer" side of performance dampers... But both will be noticeable firmer then OEM. You may want to look at the D-Spec dampers, as you adjust both bump and rebound at the same time (Great for a street damper, not so much for a race damper). what this will allow you to do is Minimize the Bump Rates giving you a softer ride... and when you want a bit of performance you can adjust the rebound to where you need. Unfortunatly because you adjust both rebound and bump at the same time, you'll end up with a comprimise between Both for handling performance. Rebound primarly influences corner entry and exit handling... Bump deals more with ride quality. so as you increase rebound to adjust handling, you'll also be increasing Bump... too much bump valving and you run in to the possibiliy that when you hit bumps the tire may bounce off the ground (due to the higher bump setting not letting the spirngs do their jobs)... So you can see that performance wise you'd have to make a comprimise... But for a street damper, being able to reduce bump for ride quality is a good thing.

Oh ya, I'm not sure if the D-spec or HP has softer valving (Overall)... You may want to contact Tokico and ask.