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So i wen't and got the car aligned everything was good and car is still drifting at 60 mph and above. Problem didn't start untill I had my old (not on the car anymore) tires rotated.

I'm on 4 new tires, all balanced, aligned, and properly inflated and the car drifts and pulls.

Brought it to honda with the TSB and they said that the steering wheel was a little off but couldn't duplicate it.

They are ordering parts for 3 other TSB's so when I bring it back I'm going to have them re drive it on the highway and hopefully they will order whatever steering parts are necessary.

or maybe I just need to re rotate the new tires.

TSB number for the pull drift is 06-068 for those interested.

 
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what lane are u in when u drift..

 
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Most roads have a crown in them which means the middle of the road is higher than the outside edges of the road. So my car is perfectly aligned and all stock, it will pull toward the edge of the road because of the crown in the road. So a little pull cant really be avoided, but if your is in the right lane and the car pulls pretty hard to the left you definitely could have a problem.

 
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u may be getting what is referred to as a "radial pull" which does tend to happen, u may have a bad tire, but i agree about the crown in the road. get ur tires rotated, and if the problem still exists, then have honda check the tsbs for a potential problem

 
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Ever been in an accident?

 
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i was about to say pertty much all roads are built on a slant, to allow proper sheeting/drainage of H2O wheelspin beat me 2 it

 
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no accidents.

It happens in all lanes mostly prevelant on highways in any lane at speeds of 55mph and it gets worse the faster you go.

I can also feel it when under hard braking.

Never had a problem with it previously - I'm afraid to really get on it becuase I don't want to lose control of the car.

It just won't hold a straight line and when you go to correct it does so more than you intend it to so it starts sliding.

 
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Ok if I understand this correctly you rotated your OLD tires and this problem occurred. You tried to remedy the problem by getting new tires, having them balance, and the whole car aligned.

Right? This helps us eliminate the fact that it might be the new alignment, or tires.

Have you checked your pressure by any chance?

 
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1) went to the dealership for and oil change and rotate. Realized that the fronts where almost bald. had them rotated to the back.

2) had 2 new back tires (old fronts) put on as well as matching fronts. 4 new tires balanced and proper pressure.

3) had an alignment - numbers weren't off by much to begin with and also found out about the tsb for the pull and drift.

4) went to the dealership with the tsb and they said that the steering wheel was off by a little but coulnd't duplicate the problem.

5) I'm giong back to have 3 more tsb's taken care of and they are going to re test it.

The problem only started after the first rotate to put the almost bald stock tires on the back. The rear end was sliding everywhere so I just went and got 4 new tires. They are yokohama as430's.

I'm just trying to determine if it is the TSB or if theres something else that might be causing it.

 
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so does the car start to fish tail, or does the back end feel like it is going to swing around? and if so does it always start to go to one side? and is it when ur going straight, turning or all of the above?

 
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It's not the back that's drifting on me, it's the front. The back was moving on me when it had the crap stock tires on it.

this is straight line on the highway.

 
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Ok well from what I understand after the first rotation you had bald rears. This would account for the sliding around and such, especially if roads are dirty.

Now that you have new tires all around, there should not be any sliding. Do you have any modds on your car? specifically suspension modifications.

Now you had the car realigned after the new tires were installed?
"had an alignment - numbers weren't off by much to begin with"
But did the alignment fix the numbers? Are you in red at all after the alignment? If you are red at all, that might be the cause of your pull or drift.

Even if you are in green it doesn't mean its going to go straight. When you have your car aligned to spec, it just means tire wear is acceptable by the factory. If done correctly the tires should be parallel, but sometimes they don't spend enough time on the alignment. They just get it into spec, but don't bother to make sure all the wheels are parallel. This will also cause the drift or pull.

Sounds to me something is wrong with the alignment. You sliding with the old tires may be due to the bald rears. Now the new tires shouldn't slide, but your getting a pull or drift due to a possible bad alignment.

Do you have the print out?
Check your front toe...I think that might be the problem.

 
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im betting $$ on its a bad tire causing a radial pull as stated in an above post

 
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Hey did you check your front caliper/pins, it will make your vehicle pull/drift if they are stuck/sticking. It defintily could be the alignment (front toe), if you have the print out post it. And the only other thing i could think of is a bad tire (bad belt in tire).

 
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check your tire pressures. if one tire has significantly less air, it will have a larger contact patch, which will cause more drag, and pull the car in that direction

 
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it could be a front brake bad hanging. if the brake is sticking even the littlest bit, you might not notice it at slower speeds but on highway you'll notice it. my truck used to do that. i would notice it more on the highway and especially when i came to a stop anywhere.

 
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I doubt its your pad. They don't touch your pad or your disc when they do an alignment. No to mention if you had a front brake pad that was rubbing, it would smoke after a few miles from constant friction and you would definitely smell it. It could be, but I highly doubt it.

 
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def get all the bushings in the front checked out. i'm 99% sure its some worn bushings causing the problem. check them out before spending alot of money on other ****. specialy check the radius arm bushings on the side that the car is pulling to.

 
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Took the car in to take care of 3 tsb's that they order the parts for. I'm getting them to do an alignment as well. This is my home dealership and has always given me good service with no b/s. Comes with a 12 month 12000 mile warranty. I'll let you know how it goes when I go to pick it up.

 
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Right, so the second alignment fixed the problem. no more drifting at highway speeds and all that good stuff. Car pulls to the right now when steering wheel is straight though so I think I'm going to have to take it back and make them fix that.

numbers are :

FR: Camber -0.5
Toe 0.9
FL: Camber 0.2
Toe 0.9
RR Camber -0.7
Toe 0.9
LR Camber -0.9
Toe 0.9


As an added bonus they replaced the gauge assembly to fix the gas light but didn't correct my milage. So I have 36,xxx less miles when I go to sell my car down the line.

 
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What was your mileage before?
Also a little drift to the right is fine. They say that if you are driving and fall asleep that the car is to vier off of the road instead of into oncoming traffic. So I am told.

 
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or into the pedestrians

 
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Well, since the majority of driving is on the Highway there should not be that many pediastrains around. Besides I would hope that the pediastrains would be awake and able to jump out of the way. That is if they are not too fat. Wait a minute. I don't think the fat ones do the walking, they are the ones sleeping in the car.

 
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u mean like this; lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zeo-3PLIFzw

 
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LOL, YES JUST LIKE THAT. haha +1 4 u...

 
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I had 36,7xx on the car. I now have 40 miles. Car rides nice and drives a lot better.