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Old Apr 17, 2019
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Originally Posted by ezone
Premade brake lines can both be simpler and yet suck donkeyballs at the same time......because you usually start seriously thinking the rest of the car was assembled AFTER those lines were installed under the floor.
Drop the K frame to run lines up and across the firewall from underneath? You're trying to do this on your back in the driveway? Craptacular.

I'd probably just get a roll of the right size CuNi brake line (and necessary tools) and fabricate/bend/flare whatever, however I need the metal brake lines to be.

Not sure how I'd repair fuel lines if it were my own car though. I have ideas but some might not be considered professional LOL
These are the fuel feed and return, but similar to the brake lines. My brake lines have already been replaced by the previous owner (they are in good shape)

I have a hoist in my shop, which is on my home property. Car will be up in the air. I already changed the steering rack on hoist myself.

I totally understand these are the first thing to be installed after the car is lifted up at the assembly plant.

If you look, the end of these looks like it would stick through the spot where the factory lines go above the front subframe. This is where it is flexible on these aftermarket lines. If the bend here was a hard bend I'd say dropping the front frame would be absolutely necessary, but its a soft line. Even if this takes a while, I don't care. I want to do it right. I have 4 cars and soon i'll have a 5th. This car can stay on the hoist. I don't do things "mickey mouse". I just wasn't sure if anyone has used these before.
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Re: Fuel line replacement

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These are the fuel feed and return, but
Dammitsomuch, my reading comprehension must be at "mouthing all the words as I read" level.
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Re: Fuel line replacement

The nylon line the op and myself used gives you a better line than factory because it won't rust out, you could do all 3 lines in that nylon and still be cheaper than the link you posted.
If you like pissing away extra money go ahead
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Re: Fuel line replacement

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The nylon line the op and myself used gives you a better line than factory because it won't rust out, you could do all 3 lines in that nylon and still be cheaper than the link you posted.
If you like pissing away extra money go ahead
Sorry for being little confused and I'm still a noob regarding fuel line. I'm ready to use nylon for the supply fuel line. But I try to understand how do you connect the nylon fuel line with other parts such fuel tank, fuel filter or with other fuel lines? Do you need any special tool for the connection?
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Re: Fuel line replacement

first post in this thread has the parts list for everything you need.
if you have a 99 or 2000 with the massive evap line use brass fitting to go from the 1/4" rubber to the 5/8" (i think) evap line
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Re: Fuel line replacement

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Sorry for being little confused and I'm still a noob regarding fuel line. I'm ready to use nylon for the supply fuel line. But I try to understand how do you connect the nylon fuel line with other parts such fuel tank, fuel filter or with other fuel lines? Do you need any special tool for the connection?
Look at my post from Jan 4 2017.

To connect the nylon fuel supply line to the filter and fuel tank, you use fittings that are intended for this purpose.

At the filter, you use Dorman 800-030 steel fitting. It has a barbed end that the nylon slips over, and the tube nut that has the right threads for the filter. See my photo in the Jan 4 post, it shows the nut that came with the fitting vs the one that was on the filter (original). I reused the old one.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-20634-800-030.aspx

At the fuel tank, you use Dorman 800-080 plastic fitting. It has a barbed end for the nylon line and the other end clips on to the connection at the tank. It "clicks" into place so you'll know when it's on correctly. Getting the nylon onto the barbed fitting was a bit of a struggle. I heated up some water in a microwave oven (same as if you were making tea) and let the end of the nylon line sit in the hot water for a minute or so. That helped getting it onto the barbs. Oh yeah, I just re-read my post, I initially couldn't get the line onto the nylon fitting, so I first put it onto the steel fitting, then took it off, heated it in water some more, then put it onto the plastic fitting.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-13751-800-080.aspx

For my return and vapour lines I used fuel rated rubber hose and steel hose clamps.
Also look at the video from the Dec 2016 post, it helps.
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Originally Posted by Colin42
first post in this thread has the parts list for everything you need.
if you have a 99 or 2000 with the massive evap line use brass fitting to go from the 1/4" rubber to the 5/8" (i think) evap line
My civic is a 2000 and yes, there is a huge evap pipe. I'm also from Canada. Could you tell me where you bought your parts (especially the nylon fuel line)?. I ask you this question because I didn't find any nylon fuel line in Canadian Tire and those from Amazon are bloody expensive.

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Re: Fuel line replacement

Originally Posted by old97civic
Look at my post from Jan 4 2017.

To connect the nylon fuel supply line to the filter and fuel tank, you use fittings that are intended for this purpose.

At the filter, you use Dorman 800-030 steel fitting. It has a barbed end that the nylon slips over, and the tube nut that has the right threads for the filter. See my photo in the Jan 4 post, it shows the nut that came with the fitting vs the one that was on the filter (original). I reused the old one.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-20634-800-030.aspx

At the fuel tank, you use Dorman 800-080 plastic fitting. It has a barbed end for the nylon line and the other end clips on to the connection at the tank. It "clicks" into place so you'll know when it's on correctly. Getting the nylon onto the barbed fitting was a bit of a struggle. I heated up some water in a microwave oven (same as if you were making tea) and let the end of the nylon line sit in the hot water for a minute or so. That helped getting it onto the barbs. Oh yeah, I just re-read my post, I initially couldn't get the line onto the nylon fitting, so I first put it onto the steel fitting, then took it off, heated it in water some more, then put it onto the plastic fitting.
https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-13751-800-080.aspx

For my return and vapour lines I used fuel rated rubber hose and steel hose clamps.
Also look at the video from the Dec 2016 post, it helps.
How flexible the nylon fuel line? Do you need any special tool to bend it?
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Re: Fuel line replacement

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My civic is a 2000 and yes, there is a huge evap pipe. I'm also from Canada. Could you tell me where you bought your parts (especially the nylon fuel line)?. I ask you this question because I didn't find any nylon fuel line in Canadian Tire and those from Amazon are bloody expensive.
i got everything on rockauto, prices are good and shipping is cheap. takes about a week to get to canada.

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How flexible the nylon fuel line? Do you need any special tool to bend it?
it super flexible, almost like rubber line, just need a heat gun/boiling water to soften up the ends for the fittings
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Great. Thanks for your helps.
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Hey guys. I'm really sorry for bothering you again. Now I'm shopping for the nylon fuel line. But I need some clarifications from your guys because I'm confuse with the exact diameter of the nylon fuel line. In fact, there are two types of 5/16 nylon fuel line. One has 5/16 ID and other has 5/16 OD. So could you guys clarify the diameter of your fuel line. thx
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Dorman 800-071
this is the part number that you need
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Ok thank again for your helps. I'm going to buy the same part.
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Hey all, this is my first ever post on a forum, but I've learned so much from you all and I wanted to give back. I just finished installing a new tank and replacing all 3 rusted lines on a 2000 honda civic hatchback dx.

-I took the advice above and bought the heavy duty gates barricade rubber fuel injection hose for maximum flexibility and not wanting to mess with the fittings.
-Part # on Rockauto = 27340 (Gates Barricade MPI). Unfortunately you have to buy 1' sections or a 25' section (kind of expensive = $2.18/foot). I have about 14' leftover I can sell you or post somewhere online, or give to another civic buddy :-)

I did my best with my first video here if you find it helpful, but you may want to read the tips below first. Enjoy!

-If you have the 95/98 years, you can just buy a 25' roll and use this for the evap and return line. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...=99812&jsn=331

-If you have the 99/00 years I'd suggest just buying about 12' of 5/8" hose for the 99/2000 years for the massive evap line... going to the plumbing department to get parts and cutting hoses to go 5/8" to 1/4" just isn't worth the time if you ask me. I spent about $10 in brass fittings at Menards, but I could've saved hours of time by spending $30 more for the 5/8" hose. Here is one option on rock auto - Gates 28147 https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...=100072&jsn=18 **I only see it in a 50' section which is way too much - you can get it by the foot at any auto store. ***If you have 95-98 then just use the rest of your 1/4" hose from the 25' roll you purchase (for return and evap lines).


Doorman steel barb for connecting to fuel filter - I reused the nut that held the old line in place against the fuel filter in the engine bay https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-206...origin=keyword

Doorman quick connect for main line on top of the tank that you access from back seat https://www.dormanproducts.com/p-137...origin=keyword

Gas tank from Rock Auto
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...fuel+tank,6268

Tank Straps from Rock Auto
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/...nk+strap,10321



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Re: Fuel line replacement

Good work
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Just wondering does anyone know the factory specs in psi for the evap, return and supply lines? Would the Gates 27002 (1/4) Dorman 800-071 (5/16) be too close to the maximum factory rated psi when replacing these lines?

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Whatever parts are listed at the start of the thread worked fine, never had any leaks
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Would it be possible to go from the bottom to cut out the metal part of the evap line in sections that curves twards the gas tank from the left, then snake in the 1/4" nylon and the brass hose fittings and adapter to the tank without dropping it? Has anyone seen this? Just a diffrent apporach I came up with last night.

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Re: Fuel line replacement

Probably
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Does anyone know how to open and remove this so I can take out the pipes and hoses? I have a 1999 and its different from the videos posted earlier in this thread . This is where the evap, supply and return meet at the front of the firewall

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On the left side you can see the little clip. Pick or a small flat head
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Re: Fuel line replacement

Finally got it off. Was using a flathead screwdriver that was too fat.
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