Engine revs to 6000rpm ON ITS OWN
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Engine revs to 6000rpm ON ITS OWN
craziest **** happened to me today
im driving along.. not paying much attention and im coming up to a light, and all of a sudden i notice that im not really slowing down... i STAND on the brake and im getting minimal braking power
(the stereo was cranked so i couldnt hear the revs at all.. so at first, that is to say for a split second, i thought it was a brake problem)
i looked down at my tach, and realized i was at 4000rpm
i thought '****! i must be stepping on the gas at the same time as the brake'.. so i physically looked down and i was not pressing on the gas
next thing i did was to throw the car in neutral (cause im still flying towards the light).... now the revs go up almost to redline
i stopped, threw it in park, and shut down the engine, apply the handbrake.....
i thought, ok.. that was strange as hell, but lets get out of the way of the traffic
i start up the car, immediatly (in park) the revs shoot up to 3000... i take my feet off of any pedals just to be sure im not touching the gas
i shut down the car
i did that about 3 times.. till i decided to leave it in park
the revs slowly came down from 3000, 2000, 1500, 1000
and i was able to shift gears again
drove away, had no other problems
WHATS WRONG WITH MY BABY!??!!?
im driving along.. not paying much attention and im coming up to a light, and all of a sudden i notice that im not really slowing down... i STAND on the brake and im getting minimal braking power
(the stereo was cranked so i couldnt hear the revs at all.. so at first, that is to say for a split second, i thought it was a brake problem)
i looked down at my tach, and realized i was at 4000rpm
i thought '****! i must be stepping on the gas at the same time as the brake'.. so i physically looked down and i was not pressing on the gas
next thing i did was to throw the car in neutral (cause im still flying towards the light).... now the revs go up almost to redline
i stopped, threw it in park, and shut down the engine, apply the handbrake.....
i thought, ok.. that was strange as hell, but lets get out of the way of the traffic
i start up the car, immediatly (in park) the revs shoot up to 3000... i take my feet off of any pedals just to be sure im not touching the gas
i shut down the car
i did that about 3 times.. till i decided to leave it in park
the revs slowly came down from 3000, 2000, 1500, 1000
and i was able to shift gears again
drove away, had no other problems
WHATS WRONG WITH MY BABY!??!!?

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Sheesh thats insane... good thing no one got hurt. You check your throttle cable and parts around it? Maybe you got a bad throttle position sensor(TPS)? Was the gas pedal fully up when it was reving that high? If your car is completely stock that wouldnt be a good thing for Honda.. if you find out what it is make sure you post a msg!
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No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.
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damn.. I didn't even think to check if the cruise control master was on or not
as for the throttle cable, i thought about that when i restarted it once and pulled the pedal up with my hand after one of the restarts and it didnt move, it was already all the way up
it couldnt have been the cable tho.. cause the revs slowly decreased
i thought maybe somthing had jammed the throttle open... but it wouldnt have decreased slowly, just all at once
so cruise control sounds like it might be the most likely possiblity
as for the throttle cable, i thought about that when i restarted it once and pulled the pedal up with my hand after one of the restarts and it didnt move, it was already all the way up
it couldnt have been the cable tho.. cause the revs slowly decreased
i thought maybe somthing had jammed the throttle open... but it wouldnt have decreased slowly, just all at once
so cruise control sounds like it might be the most likely possiblity
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[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
damn.. I didn't even think to check if the cruise control master was on or not
as for the throttle cable, i thought about that when i restarted it once and pulled the pedal up with my hand after one of the restarts and it didnt move, it was already all the way up
it couldnt have been the cable tho.. cause the revs slowly decreased
i thought maybe somthing had jammed the throttle open... but it wouldnt have decreased slowly, just all at once
so cruise control sounds like it might be the most likely possiblity[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
damn.. I didn't even think to check if the cruise control master was on or not
as for the throttle cable, i thought about that when i restarted it once and pulled the pedal up with my hand after one of the restarts and it didnt move, it was already all the way up
it couldnt have been the cable tho.. cause the revs slowly decreased
i thought maybe somthing had jammed the throttle open... but it wouldnt have decreased slowly, just all at once
so cruise control sounds like it might be the most likely possiblity[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Ummmm.....this is the Vehicle Issues/Problems section. His story sounds like a pretty big f'ing problem.
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?

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About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
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holy crap! this is scary! good thing you and your car (but not quite) are okay...
i hate it when i bring in my car to the dealer complaining about a problem which is common among civics but getting a dazed look from the technician and says "really?!" pretending that it doesn't happen often and when we go for a testdrive they pretend to not hear any noise or pretend a squeeky clutch pedal is normal *sigh*... i hope your car gets fixed before it happens again!
i hate it when i bring in my car to the dealer complaining about a problem which is common among civics but getting a dazed look from the technician and says "really?!" pretending that it doesn't happen often and when we go for a testdrive they pretend to not hear any noise or pretend a squeeky clutch pedal is normal *sigh*... i hope your car gets fixed before it happens again!
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Because a problem of this magnatude doesn't need to wait on answers from fellow members. It demands repair immediately. That is what I meant smarty.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Ummmm.....this is the Vehicle Issues/Problems section. His story sounds like a pretty big f'ing problem.
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?

[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
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There was a TSB a while back. I have it printed out at home so I dont know the specifics, but it said something about there could be a loose piece of plastic that could get lodged in the throttle or something which can cause the brake not to work. I'll look for it when I get home if you want.
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yeah, i have the stock airbox
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems
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I dont think the piece gets sucked into the engine directly, but snaps off and lodges itself in the throttle plate. Not sure if this would apply to you though since your idle dropped.. not sure though.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
yeah, i have the stock airbox
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
yeah, i have the stock airbox
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: TopFuel
you are an idiot MBOW....if its ANY vehicle issue or problem he can post it here if he wants.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Because a problem of this magnatude doesn't need to wait on answers from fellow members. It demands repair immediately. That is what I meant smarty.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Ummmm.....this is the Vehicle Issues/Problems section. His story sounds like a pretty big f'ing problem.
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?

[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
Why would someone with a problem of this nature be waiting on answers from fellow members. I don't know about you but if that happened to me, I would be at the dealer cursing. I could see posting this after they had gone to the dealer and found something out one way or the other.
Anyhow, no ones talking to you little boy.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Go lick your ***** again. You obviously missed the whole point of either posts.
Why would someone with a problem of this nature be waiting on answers from fellow members. I don't know about you but if that happened to me, I would be at the dealer cursing. I could see posting this after they had gone to the dealer and found something out one way or the other.
Anyhow, no ones talking to you little boy.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
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[hr]Originally posted by: TopFuel
you are an idiot MBOW....if its ANY vehicle issue or problem he can post it here if he wants.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: TopFuel
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Because a problem of this magnatude doesn't need to wait on answers from fellow members. It demands repair immediately. That is what I meant smarty.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Ummmm.....this is the Vehicle Issues/Problems section. His story sounds like a pretty big f'ing problem.
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?

[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
Why would someone with a problem of this nature be waiting on answers from fellow members. I don't know about you but if that happened to me, I would be at the dealer cursing. I could see posting this after they had gone to the dealer and found something out one way or the other.
Anyhow, no ones talking to you little boy.[hr]
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all of you
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Go lick your ***** again. You obviously missed the whole point of either posts.
Why would someone with a problem of this nature be waiting on answers from fellow members. I don't know about you but if that happened to me, I would be at the dealer cursing. I could see posting this after they had gone to the dealer and found something out one way or the other.
Anyhow, no ones talking to you little boy.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
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[hr]Originally posted by: TopFuel
you are an idiot MBOW....if its ANY vehicle issue or problem he can post it here if he wants.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: TopFuel
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Because a problem of this magnatude doesn't need to wait on answers from fellow members. It demands repair immediately. That is what I meant smarty.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Ummmm.....this is the Vehicle Issues/Problems section. His story sounds like a pretty big f'ing problem.
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?

[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
Why would someone with a problem of this nature be waiting on answers from fellow members. I don't know about you but if that happened to me, I would be at the dealer cursing. I could see posting this after they had gone to the dealer and found something out one way or the other.
Anyhow, no ones talking to you little boy.[hr]
all of you
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[hr]Originally posted by: LikeWEEEEEEEEEE
i said got lodged (not moving) in the throttle body. take off the stock intake and check to see if its still jammed there. if it got pulled through, its sitting in your intake manifold. its not in your engine.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
yeah, i have the stock airbox
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
yeah, i have the stock airbox
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems[hr]
its a reasonable idea, but i dont think thats what happened, cause if it did and it got sucked through the revs wouldve dropped off immediately
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[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
i know what you mean, lodged, but the idle dropped, gradually, which would lead me to believe that it slowly slipped through the throttle...
its a reasonable idea, but i dont think thats what happened, cause if it did and it got sucked through the revs wouldve dropped off immediately[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
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[hr]Originally posted by: LikeWEEEEEEEEEE
i said got lodged (not moving) in the throttle body. take off the stock intake and check to see if its still jammed there. if it got pulled through, its sitting in your intake manifold. its not in your engine.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: LikeWEEEEEEEEEE
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[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
yeah, i have the stock airbox
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Falcon
yeah, i have the stock airbox
are you telling me that some chunk of plastic broke off, and made its way into my throttle, jammed it open... slowly got sucked through and then made it into my engine?!?!
crap.. thats gonna cause some serious problems[hr]
its a reasonable idea, but i dont think thats what happened, cause if it did and it got sucked through the revs wouldve dropped off immediately[hr]
id get the air box off and check to see wtf is up with it before i drove it again.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
A problem is a prloblem, he can post it on here if he wants, doesn't matter if he needs to go see the dealer or not.
Because a problem of this magnatude doesn't need to wait on answers from fellow members. It demands repair immediately. That is what I meant smarty.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Ummmm.....this is the Vehicle Issues/Problems section. His story sounds like a pretty big f'ing problem.
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?

[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
A problem is a prloblem, he can post it on here if he wants, doesn't matter if he needs to go see the dealer or not.
Because a problem of this magnatude doesn't need to wait on answers from fellow members. It demands repair immediately. That is what I meant smarty.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Go lick your ***** again. You obviously missed the whole point of either posts.
Why would someone with a problem of this nature be waiting on answers from fellow members. I don't know about you but if that happened to me, I would be at the dealer cursing. I could see posting this after they had gone to the dealer and found something out one way or the other.
Anyhow, no ones talking to you little boy.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
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[hr]Originally posted by: TopFuel
you are an idiot MBOW....if its ANY vehicle issue or problem he can post it here if he wants.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: TopFuel
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
Because a problem of this magnatude doesn't need to wait on answers from fellow members. It demands repair immediately. That is what I meant smarty.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Ummmm.....this is the Vehicle Issues/Problems section. His story sounds like a pretty big f'ing problem.
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?

[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
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[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Mbow
No offense, but why would you post this up here. The dealer is the only one that is going to be able to help you. Although, if it doesn't do it when you take it in, there isn't a problem. Take it and get it checked out and say a prayer that she acts up when daddy comes to look at her.[hr]
If this doesn't belong here, what do you think does belong here?
[IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]About it being a cruise control problem........that might be very possible. Have ya'll ever put your car in neutral and pressed the set cruise button? Your engine will immediatly rev on its own all the way up to redline, because it's trying to catch up with nothing. Kinda cool.[hr]
Why would someone with a problem of this nature be waiting on answers from fellow members. I don't know about you but if that happened to me, I would be at the dealer cursing. I could see posting this after they had gone to the dealer and found something out one way or the other.
Anyhow, no ones talking to you little boy.[hr]
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well, im glad to see that a flame war has erupted over my problem [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
but i haven't been waiting on anyones responses... this has never happened before to me, and it hasnt happened since.. ive been very watchful of everything thats going on
the thing is that i cant take it to the dealer and say 'fix it' cause apparently nothing is wrong with it...
if it ever happens again you can be sure that i'll head in to the dealer to see whats going on.. but for now it seems like there was just some electronic glitch
so ill keep everyone posted if it happens again
but i haven't been waiting on anyones responses... this has never happened before to me, and it hasnt happened since.. ive been very watchful of everything thats going on
the thing is that i cant take it to the dealer and say 'fix it' cause apparently nothing is wrong with it...
if it ever happens again you can be sure that i'll head in to the dealer to see whats going on.. but for now it seems like there was just some electronic glitch
so ill keep everyone posted if it happens again
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