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Old Jul 19, 2014
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Look what I found.....

UGH!!....look what i found while replacing my EVAP canister valve......

im hoping i can just replace the end, instead of the entire bar?

God knows how long its been like this, im not under the back end of my car too often
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Old Jul 19, 2014
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Re: Look what I found.....

Depends on how rusty the swaybar is, and if you damage it getting the stud and nut apart.

If I can't use a socket and gator grip pliers to get them apart, I use a whizwheel to cut the nut and stud to get them apart.



Or...just ignore it, let it rot completely off the car, and call it a DX?
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Old Jul 19, 2014
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Now I'm going to need to see mine... but TS Wali is bearing down on the Islands right now... so it'll have to wait until this weekend, prolly.

So far though I'm pretty satisfied with my damping/spring, if a bit soft at the rear. Much better than my Escort was... though with a wagon swaybar, that old bucket tore up some twisties way better than that horrible drivetrain deserved to, atop a Mazda Protege chassis.

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Old Jul 20, 2014
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Re: Look what I found.....

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Or...just ignore it, let it rot completely off the car, and call it a DX?
so im assuming its not all that important?
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Re: Look what I found.....

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so im assuming its not all that important?
If you drive like the target customer for the lower spec Civics do, sure. But if you want *less* understeer and much better control at the rear when you need it... best go with a thicker swaybar.

I replaced my Escort sedan's 13mm swaybar w/ a 21mm wagon one for... shipping cost. The difference when I pushed the car to it limits on twisties was night & day.

One of the better value basic suspension tweaks, before they get as pricey they tend to do. To me being able to maintain composure after a transition is pretty addictive, and this one will surprise you, if you didn't realize a link was off. Not a slam... but its been brought to my attn that much of my moto sensitivities don't apply with cars. Uh, sure they do... and you'll definitely feel the difference between no link and an RSX bar.
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Re: Look what I found.....

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so im assuming its not all that important?
well...

if you noticed only now when you went down the car, i would say no...

I would have noticed the increased understeer.... as i have once... but then, i am a suspension nuts
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Re: Look what I found.....

Perfect time to upgrade to a RSX bar!
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Re: Look what I found.....

i use the car for its intended purpose.....economy, i dont beat on it or race it, i have two wheels for that

it is mainly my wifes car, but i do drive it at least a few times a week and didnt notice any real difference,

now that i think about it, over the past year or so, every once in awhile (maybe every two weeks) i have noticed a "clunk" sound from that rear wheel when i back out of my driveway and go over the small bump at the roads edge, this is the only time it makes the noise,

i suspect that noise is cause by these two parts that should be together now hitting each other as they pass one another,

i will probably end up replacing the end piece, not because its a real problem, but just because i am ODC and like things done properly,
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Re: Look what I found.....

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Perfect time to upgrade to a RSX bar!
BAM! That!!!
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Re: Look what I found.....

Originally Posted by mikey1
economy, i dont beat on it or race it,

i have noticed a "clunk" sound from
My GFs Saturn was squawking on bumps about 4 years ago, then it quit squawking and began clunking at times. The end link had been rusted, seized, then finally broke. Just like yours.
So I pried the broken link out of the way so it can't clunk.
It's still like that. She can't tell any difference while driving from point A to point B.


so im assuming its not all that important?
As others mentioned, yes it serves a definite purpose.

But the DX doesn't have a rear swaybar at all.



because i am ODC
That's "CDO", all letters in alphabetical order!
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Re: Look what I found.....

Originally Posted by ezone
That's "CDO", all letters in alphabetical order!
geez, i didnt even get it right in my other post....thats OCD
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geez, i didnt even get it right in my other post....thats OCD
So you're not afflicted with full-blown OCD yet....
Wash your hands 15 times?

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Re: Look what I found.....

Originally Posted by mikey1
i use the car for its intended purpose.....economy, i dont beat on it or race it, i have two wheels for that

it is mainly my wifes car, but i do drive it at least a few times a week and didnt notice any real difference,

now that i think about it, over the past year or so, every once in awhile (maybe every two weeks) i have noticed a "clunk" sound from that rear wheel when i back out of my driveway and go over the small bump at the roads edge, this is the only time it makes the noise,

i suspect that noise is cause by these two parts that should be together now hitting each other as they pass one another,

i will probably end up replacing the end piece, not because its a real problem, but just because i am ODC and like things done properly,

Shame on ya for not detecting the lack of a link attached as a motorcyclist! j/k

Well... I suppose if you don't or haven't ever raced (or ridden in insanely fast street riding on track-prepped sportbikes, which is probably for the better )... it's kinda hard to assume you would.

I'd just reattach the link and call it good, under your use case. Though an RSX bar is both pretty cheap and will firm up rear grip as well as dial out quite a bit of understeer... it may not be worth it under those conditions.

That said, RSX bar is on my bucket list. Though the stock setup is quite good considering the tune, I do notice the understeer, esp right as my fronts begin to break traction as I begin to add power off the apex... at pretty hairy speed (65+ on my local set of twisties). I don't have a sportbike anymore to ride (in fact my new charger is to prep it for a new owner), so have to upgrade my cage.
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