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Old 10-14-2006
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why not automatic????

i have a 2004 em2 dx vp(value package) and its a automatic. now everybody i see now has a stick.why. i mean shouldnt a auto be faster since you dont have to take time to shift? why do people like manuals better. do they think its cooler or its faster. please help me somebody.and is it possible to turbo a auto em2 and it not break. any help would help.ant pictures of autos will help me feel better
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i have a 2004 em2 dx vp(value package) and its a automatic. now everybody i see now has a stick.why. i mean shouldnt a auto be faster since you dont have to take time to shift? why do people like manuals better. do they think its cooler or its faster. please help me somebody.and is it possible to turbo a auto em2 and it not break. any help would help.ant pictures of autos will help me feel better
this has been covered more times than i cant count, search for auto vs. manual
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most auto breaks in 50-100k miles. garbage
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seriously? welp, that'll be just another reason for a manual swap when it does...
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well the one main reason to get a manual is just becuase you can control the shift points of the car ALOT better. with the auto trannys you cant really control when you shift to the next gear. also if you autocross the car downshifting will be a problem because when youbrake with a auto you usually downshift to second or first gear.

no with sportshift and tiptronic thats a different subject.
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how's about the aditional power lost through the torque converter?
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You cannot choose when you shift.
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Boost = Better for automatic because you don't have to let go of the pedal, therefore the turbo doesn't have to re-spool (or so ive heard...)

Manual IS faster than automatic because is has less to go through (tranny wise) before the power is put to the wheels, less power is lost to move the car with a manual tranny

Yes, it is cooler

And manual is a lot better than automatic especially if you're doing a track. Let's say for example, you're taking a long turn in an automatic at 60kmh, with auto, the car will shift so you will be able to cruise around the turn

With manual, in the same situation, you can stay in gear, in your powerband and give the most acceleration comming out of the turn
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Originally Posted by karizzle
Boost = Better for automatic because you don't have to let go of the pedal, therefore the turbo doesn't have to re-spool (or so ive heard...)

kinda true but not really...if your dd you might fall out of your power band if you shift early...but in a race taking it to right before redline and shifting, youll never fall out of the power band and the turbo will not stop spooling
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Originally Posted by Boost_Junkie
kinda true but not really...if your dd you might fall out of your power band if you shift early...but in a race taking it to right before redline and shifting, youll never fall out of the power band and the turbo will not stop spooling
huh?
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shouldnt they be quicker since they dont have to take time for you to shift it
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Originally Posted by type-r
shouldnt they be quicker since they dont have to take time for you to shift it
Like I said before, you can shift faster in a manual and also you can choose to shift when you want, meaning you can get higher RPMs, plus they have less horsepower, which means slower.
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gear ratios. enough said.
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