Emanage Full DIY Install-NEW UPDATE 9/30/05
Bro are you positive those Ignition timming harness is correct in your diagram? Mine is setup up different.
Reason I say this is because ifyou were to look at greddys install for the rsx , they connect
coil pack(igpls1) 1 to channel 1
coil pack(igpls2) 2 to channel 2
coil pack(igpls3) 3 to channel 3
coil pack(igpls4) 4 to channel 4
Yours is jumping from cylinder 1 to 4 to 2 to 3
Reason I say this is because ifyou were to look at greddys install for the rsx , they connect
coil pack(igpls1) 1 to channel 1
coil pack(igpls2) 2 to channel 2
coil pack(igpls3) 3 to channel 3
coil pack(igpls4) 4 to channel 4
Yours is jumping from cylinder 1 to 4 to 2 to 3
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Great writeup. I will add this to the FAQ.
BTW, I used:
27 = cylinder 4, 28 = cylinder 3, 29 = cylinder 2, 30 = cylinder 1
*so.....channel 1 of emanage goes to cylinder 1, channel 2 to cylinder 3, channel 3 to cylinder 4, channel 4 to cylinder 2
*wire colors of the pins...pin 27 is brown, pin 28 is white/blue, pin 29 is blue/red, pin 30 is yellow/green. For the injectors you only use 4 of the 6 channels. The others you don't wire up.
BTW, I used:
27 = cylinder 4, 28 = cylinder 3, 29 = cylinder 2, 30 = cylinder 1
*so.....channel 1 of emanage goes to cylinder 1, channel 2 to cylinder 3, channel 3 to cylinder 4, channel 4 to cylinder 2
*wire colors of the pins...pin 27 is brown, pin 28 is white/blue, pin 29 is blue/red, pin 30 is yellow/green. For the injectors you only use 4 of the 6 channels. The others you don't wire up.
Why would you want to wire it to jump cylinders when you wire the ignition hanress? Dosnt make since to me since the rsx is the same color code of our carson the ecm side, I looked in the Honda etm. Not trying to be rude, or come across arguing, but im just really curious why you wired it the way you did? Just would like an explanition.
Jeff
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Rep Power: 350 I wired it based exactly off of Madwheel and Dezod's writeups.....I didn't jump cylinders....when I get a chance, I'll double check what I have against everything else, no time to check it now.
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
isnt it 4-8-E for vtec, and 4-8-C for non vtec?
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Originally Posted by andyman97
4-8-E will work for non vtec setups but as my post stated, it is the only setting found to work for vtec.
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Rep Power: 0 are the main harness and injector harness the same? i have both but the main harness is used and the injector harness is brand new..
also.. where do you set the amount of boost you wanna run? or is that done with the wastegate or boost controller?
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also.. where do you set the amount of boost you wanna run? or is that done with the wastegate or boost controller?
thanks
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Originally Posted by aellerman
are the main harness and injector harness the same? i have both but the main harness is used and the injector harness is brand new..
also.. where do you set the amount of boost you wanna run? or is that done with the wastegate or boost controller?
thanks
also.. where do you set the amount of boost you wanna run? or is that done with the wastegate or boost controller?
thanks
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Rep Power: 327 You may want to revise your DYI i just found that the brown wire dont go to A-connector #7, it goes to E-connector #26 Engine speed pulse its a blue wire also.
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
You may want to revise your DYI i just found that the brown wire dont go to A-connector #7, it goes to E-connector #26 Engine speed pulse its a blue wire also.
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Originally Posted by andyman97
It wires into the rpm signal wire which is a blue wire in the ecu harness. On the emanage, it's a brown wire. And it is pin 7 on connector A. Not sure what you're wiring into there....
http://www.greddy.com/tech/RSX_S_TK_PART3.pdf
If your using Connector "A" pin "7" this is the crankshaft position sensor signal and isnt the same as connector "E" pin "26". They BOTH are blue wires just different signals
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Rep Power: 327 Madwheels post DIY on the RPM wire is wrong also and needs to be changed. I found this solution searching the emanageforum.com and hyaboosta posted there saying this so i PM'd him to confirm and he too has confirmed that Connector "A" pin "7" is NOT the correct wire to use for the Brown Emanage RPM wire. Be warned that after re-wiring this you will need a new tune 
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
Have you had a chance to confirm my findings? Or am i mistaken or need to clarify?
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Originally Posted by BlackFire
There are people here with the Honda Service Manual, can somebody check out if the manual have a diagram with the signals for every pin??
That would clarify everything.
That would clarify everything.
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155306
2001-2003 Honda Civic ECU Wiring
Connector A (31 Pins)
1-blk/wht-Primary O2 sensor heater control
2-yel/blk-Power Source
3-yel/blk-Power source
4-blk-Power ground
5-blk-Power ground
6-wht-Primary O2 sensor
7-blu-Crankshaft position
8-yel-Sensor return volt
9-red/blu-Knock sensor
10-grn/yel-Sensor ground
11-grn/wht-Sensor ground
12-blk/red-Idle air control valve
13-wht/blk-EGR Valve position VTEC ONLY
14-blk/wht-Secondary O2 sensor heater control
15-red/blk-Throttle position sensor
18-wht/grn-Vehicle speed sensor
19-grn/red-MAP Sensor
20-yel/blu-Sensor Voltage Supply
21-yel/red-Sensor Voltage Supply
23-brn/yel-Logic ground
24-brn/yel-logic ground
25-wht/red-Secondary O2 Sensor
26-grn-Top dead center sensor
27-brn-Igniton coil 4
28-wht/blu-coil 3
29-blu/red-coil 2
30-yel/grn-coil 1
Connector B (24 Pins)
2-yel-Fuel injector 4
3-blu-Injector 3
4-red-Injector 2
5-brn-Injector 1
6-grn-Radiator fan control
7-red/blk-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve A
8-red/wht-Engine Coolant sensor
9-blu/blk-VTEC Oil pressure switch VTEC ONLY
10-wht/blu-Alternator L Signal
13-wht/red-Alternator FR Signal
14-blu/red-EGR Valve VTEC ONLY
15-grn/yel-VTEC Solenoid valve
16-blk/red-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve B
17-red/yel-Intake air temp sensor
18-wht/grn-Alternator control
21-yel/blu-EVAP Canistor purge valve
Connector C (22 Pins)– AUTO TRANSMISSION ONLY
1-wht/blk-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve A
2-yel/blu-Torque converter clutch solenoid
4-grn/wht-Shift solenoid B
6-blu/blk-Shift Solenoid A
7-wht/red-Mainshaft speed sensor
8-brn/wht-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve B
9-red-Position switch D3
10-wht-position switch R
11-blu-position switch 2
12-blu/wht-position switch neutral or park
14-grn-countershaft speed sensor ground
15-blu-countershaft speed sensor
18-blu/yel-position switch D3 or D
20-yel-position switch D
21-wht/grn-mainshaft speed sensor ground
Connector E (31 pins)
1-grn/yel-Immobilizer fuel pump relay
2-wht/red-Secondary O2 Sensor EX Only
3-brn/yel-Logic ground
4-pnk-Sensor ground
5-yel/blu-Sensor voltage source
6-blk/wht-Secondary O2 sensor heater control EX Only
7-red/yel-PGM-FI main relay 1
9-yel/blk-Ignition input signal
12-blu/orn-Cruise control signal
13-wht/blu-Interlock control unit
14-lt grn-Fuel tank pressure sensor
15-grn/red-Electrical load detector
16-lt grn/blk-Power steering pressure switch
18-red-A/C Clutch
20-blu/red-EVAP bypass solenoid valve
21-lt grn/red-EVAP Canister shut valve
22-wht/blk-Brake pedal position switch
23-lt blu-K line
24-yel-Multiplex control unit comm line
26-blu-Engine speed pulse
27-red/blu-Immobilizer code
29-brn-Service check signal
30-red/wht-Write enable signal
31-grn/orn-MIL or check engine light enable
Connector A (31 Pins)
1-blk/wht-Primary O2 sensor heater control
2-yel/blk-Power Source
3-yel/blk-Power source
4-blk-Power ground
5-blk-Power ground
6-wht-Primary O2 sensor
7-blu-Crankshaft position
8-yel-Sensor return volt
9-red/blu-Knock sensor
10-grn/yel-Sensor ground
11-grn/wht-Sensor ground
12-blk/red-Idle air control valve
13-wht/blk-EGR Valve position VTEC ONLY
14-blk/wht-Secondary O2 sensor heater control
15-red/blk-Throttle position sensor
18-wht/grn-Vehicle speed sensor
19-grn/red-MAP Sensor
20-yel/blu-Sensor Voltage Supply
21-yel/red-Sensor Voltage Supply
23-brn/yel-Logic ground
24-brn/yel-logic ground
25-wht/red-Secondary O2 Sensor
26-grn-Top dead center sensor
27-brn-Igniton coil 4
28-wht/blu-coil 3
29-blu/red-coil 2
30-yel/grn-coil 1
Connector B (24 Pins)
2-yel-Fuel injector 4
3-blu-Injector 3
4-red-Injector 2
5-brn-Injector 1
6-grn-Radiator fan control
7-red/blk-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve A
8-red/wht-Engine Coolant sensor
9-blu/blk-VTEC Oil pressure switch VTEC ONLY
10-wht/blu-Alternator L Signal
13-wht/red-Alternator FR Signal
14-blu/red-EGR Valve VTEC ONLY
15-grn/yel-VTEC Solenoid valve
16-blk/red-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve B
17-red/yel-Intake air temp sensor
18-wht/grn-Alternator control
21-yel/blu-EVAP Canistor purge valve
Connector C (22 Pins)– AUTO TRANSMISSION ONLY
1-wht/blk-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve A
2-yel/blu-Torque converter clutch solenoid
4-grn/wht-Shift solenoid B
6-blu/blk-Shift Solenoid A
7-wht/red-Mainshaft speed sensor
8-brn/wht-A/T Pressure control solenoid valve B
9-red-Position switch D3
10-wht-position switch R
11-blu-position switch 2
12-blu/wht-position switch neutral or park
14-grn-countershaft speed sensor ground
15-blu-countershaft speed sensor
18-blu/yel-position switch D3 or D
20-yel-position switch D
21-wht/grn-mainshaft speed sensor ground
Connector E (31 pins)
1-grn/yel-Immobilizer fuel pump relay
2-wht/red-Secondary O2 Sensor EX Only
3-brn/yel-Logic ground
4-pnk-Sensor ground
5-yel/blu-Sensor voltage source
6-blk/wht-Secondary O2 sensor heater control EX Only
7-red/yel-PGM-FI main relay 1
9-yel/blk-Ignition input signal
12-blu/orn-Cruise control signal
13-wht/blu-Interlock control unit
14-lt grn-Fuel tank pressure sensor
15-grn/red-Electrical load detector
16-lt grn/blk-Power steering pressure switch
18-red-A/C Clutch
20-blu/red-EVAP bypass solenoid valve
21-lt grn/red-EVAP Canister shut valve
22-wht/blk-Brake pedal position switch
23-lt blu-K line
24-yel-Multiplex control unit comm line
26-blu-Engine speed pulse
27-red/blu-Immobilizer code
29-brn-Service check signal
30-red/wht-Write enable signal
31-grn/orn-MIL or check engine light enable
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Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
yeah check the real time display. It will be jumping everywhere if you wire it off the crank position sensor. the Engine speed pulse wire is what you want. It's on con.D
Not sure why but honda does consider that 4th connector as "E" not "D"
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Rep Power: 326 I'm not sure why someone insists that engine speed pulse is the correct pin for RPM. It's a different signal. I stand by my statement in saying that pin 7 on the first harness is correct. My VAFC2 and Emanage worked fine with that pin. How bout this, do this for a test, buy a cheap tach and try both pins, then see which one works correctly. After doing so come back on and post that the first writeup was correct and it's pinout 7 lol.
As for the ignition part, I don't see why it really matters which way you wire it. Emanage works in percentages. So as long as it's -5 degrees for example, it takes whatever signal it gets and subtracts 5 degrees off the timing. Shouldn't matter which one it goes to because the system really doesn't know any better. Now on a stand-alone system, it's the complete opposite. Knowing the correct mthod is the only way to hook it up without completely destroying your motor.
-my 2 cents...
As for the ignition part, I don't see why it really matters which way you wire it. Emanage works in percentages. So as long as it's -5 degrees for example, it takes whatever signal it gets and subtracts 5 degrees off the timing. Shouldn't matter which one it goes to because the system really doesn't know any better. Now on a stand-alone system, it's the complete opposite. Knowing the correct mthod is the only way to hook it up without completely destroying your motor.
-my 2 cents...
My rpm was crazy off the crank position but came to normal when I wired it to the engine speed pulse. But as far as the ignition harness. I have to agree it retards all the way across so why would it matter.
