Emanage Full DIY Install-NEW UPDATE 9/30/05
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Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
My rpm was crazy off the crank position but came to normal when I wired it to the engine speed pulse. But as far as the ignition harness. I have to agree it retards all the way across so why would it matter.
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Rep Power: 280 so i am assuming that us vtec head swappers are gonna be using 4-8-E ? also andyman, i'll be looking to get with you on aim, i have a few questions for ya.
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Rep Power: 326 Ok, few updates. Hyaboosta and tfnaaf are correct, you will use the blue wire on connector E for the engine speed pulse for rpm. But, mine was pin 6 or 7 I believe, can't remember.
Also, for your ignition coils, if you don't plan on running individual trims for each cylinder, you can wire any channel into any cylinder you choose, it DOES NOT matter. Just make sure your in and out from the same channel go to the same cylinder.
Also, for your ignition coils, if you don't plan on running individual trims for each cylinder, you can wire any channel into any cylinder you choose, it DOES NOT matter. Just make sure your in and out from the same channel go to the same cylinder.
09-27-2005
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Rep Power: 243 hi well i have been reading alot about he emanage wiring setup but i have been asking.
I also saw the plug and play main, ignition & injector harnass.all will be hoocked up right?witout cutting any wires form the stock harnass?here in belgium no one runs
emanage so you boosted people can suply some good info sinds i will be the 1ste
belgium running it.
peace
I also saw the plug and play main, ignition & injector harnass.all will be hoocked up right?witout cutting any wires form the stock harnass?here in belgium no one runs
emanage so you boosted people can suply some good info sinds i will be the 1ste
belgium running it.
peace
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Rep Power: 280 I have an ignition harness problem..
I've hooked up my ignition harness following the DIY exactly as read. The car won't start. We got it to start once or twice but it ran really rough and gave a misfire on cyl 2 code. Can someone verify the ins/outs wires? Od does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be?
I've hooked up my ignition harness following the DIY exactly as read. The car won't start. We got it to start once or twice but it ran really rough and gave a misfire on cyl 2 code. Can someone verify the ins/outs wires? Od does anyone have any ideas on what the problem could be?
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Rep Power: 326 Some updates:
First, and most important. In both the blue and the ultimate manuals, it specifically says for individual inline 4 ignition systems:
channel 1 of emanage - cylinder 1
channel 2 of emanage - cylinder 3
channel 3 of emanage - cylinder 4
channel 4 of emanage - cylinder 2
Input means the wire goes to the ECU for the ignition.
Output means it goes out to the coil in the engine bay.
I didn't see this warning in the blue manual, but it is in the ultimate manual, so I would follow this:
*make sure the ignition wires are connected in the proper order shown in the chart above. Improper wiring of the ignition wires can cause damage to the ignition coils.
For the airflow/map sensor:
Input means to the engine bay/map sensor.
Output means to the ECU.
For the VTEC wires:
Input means to the ECU.
Output means to the engine bay for the VTEC solenoid.
For the VTM wire:
Cut the VTM wire at the harness and connect the VTM wire from the emanage going into the ecu. Tape and leave the other end of the VTM wire going to the engine bay.
One more quick note:
There was discussion before about which wire to use for the RPM signal. I used the crank angle sensor and so did a few others, everyone else used the actual tach signal wire (engine speed pulse.)
The engine speed pulse wire is the correct wire...only for the blue.
The ultimate uses both cam and crank angle sensors which is much better because it doesn't have to guess based on every full rotation but it can be much more accurate based on the position of the crank and cam.
EDIT-I am updating my first post with all new information as it is found.
First, and most important. In both the blue and the ultimate manuals, it specifically says for individual inline 4 ignition systems:
channel 1 of emanage - cylinder 1
channel 2 of emanage - cylinder 3
channel 3 of emanage - cylinder 4
channel 4 of emanage - cylinder 2
Input means the wire goes to the ECU for the ignition.
Output means it goes out to the coil in the engine bay.
I didn't see this warning in the blue manual, but it is in the ultimate manual, so I would follow this:
*make sure the ignition wires are connected in the proper order shown in the chart above. Improper wiring of the ignition wires can cause damage to the ignition coils.
For the airflow/map sensor:
Input means to the engine bay/map sensor.
Output means to the ECU.
For the VTEC wires:
Input means to the ECU.
Output means to the engine bay for the VTEC solenoid.
For the VTM wire:
Cut the VTM wire at the harness and connect the VTM wire from the emanage going into the ecu. Tape and leave the other end of the VTM wire going to the engine bay.
One more quick note:
There was discussion before about which wire to use for the RPM signal. I used the crank angle sensor and so did a few others, everyone else used the actual tach signal wire (engine speed pulse.)
The engine speed pulse wire is the correct wire...only for the blue.
The ultimate uses both cam and crank angle sensors which is much better because it doesn't have to guess based on every full rotation but it can be much more accurate based on the position of the crank and cam.
EDIT-I am updating my first post with all new information as it is found.
Last edited by andyman97; 09-30-2005 at 06:52 PM.
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Rep Power: 243 hey never realy seen a final word about the wiring of the igpls an the channels
what is the correct on?coil1-1chan coil2-chan3 coil3-4chan coil4-2chan
or coil1-chan1 coil2-chan2 coil3-chan3 coil4-chan4?
what is the correct on?coil1-1chan coil2-chan3 coil3-4chan coil4-2chan
or coil1-chan1 coil2-chan2 coil3-chan3 coil4-chan4?
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Rep Power: 303 here it is....
Originally Posted by andyman97
NEW UPDATE-9/30/05
Some updates:
First, and most important. In both the blue and the ultimate manuals, it specifically says for individual inline 4 ignition systems:
channel 1 of emanage - cylinder 1
channel 2 of emanage - cylinder 3
channel 3 of emanage - cylinder 4
channel 4 of emanage - cylinder 2
Input means the wire goes to the ECU for the ignition.
Output means it goes out to the coil in the engine bay.
I didn't see this warning in the blue manual, but it is in the ultimate manual, so I would follow this:
*make sure the ignition wires are connected in the proper order shown in the chart above. Improper wiring of the ignition wires can cause damage to the ignition coils.
Some updates:
First, and most important. In both the blue and the ultimate manuals, it specifically says for individual inline 4 ignition systems:
channel 1 of emanage - cylinder 1
channel 2 of emanage - cylinder 3
channel 3 of emanage - cylinder 4
channel 4 of emanage - cylinder 2
Input means the wire goes to the ECU for the ignition.
Output means it goes out to the coil in the engine bay.
I didn't see this warning in the blue manual, but it is in the ultimate manual, so I would follow this:
*make sure the ignition wires are connected in the proper order shown in the chart above. Improper wiring of the ignition wires can cause damage to the ignition coils.
10-29-2005
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Rep Power: 243 well so i am wiring up my harnass for my ex 04,na first till i get turbo setup done.sow on the DIY its says all blue has to be connected, main emanage connector WHITE in pin 12 and i cant find what cable needs to be in pin 13.so looked at the greddy manual and they have pin 12 open and WHITE in pin 13.so i am a little confused.
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Originally Posted by DaRk_MauL
well so i am wiring up my harnass for my ex 04,na first till i get turbo setup done.sow on the DIY its says all blue has to be connected, main emanage connector WHITE in pin 12 and i cant find what cable needs to be in pin 13.so looked at the greddy manual and they have pin 12 open and WHITE in pin 13.so i am a little confused.
ECU connector A #19 ---------------> E-manage #12(white) in, #16 (green) out
?????
If you need more infor i can look it up in my notes to make sure. Sorry for late reply had work today
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
If im understanding you correctly its shown on the first post as...
ECU connector A #19 ---------------> E-manage #12(white) in, #16 (green) out
?????
If you need more infor i can look it up in my notes to make sure. Sorry for late reply had work today
ECU connector A #19 ---------------> E-manage #12(white) in, #16 (green) out
?????
If you need more infor i can look it up in my notes to make sure. Sorry for late reply had work today
you will notice that all pins that need to be connected are blue and pin 13 of
the emanage harnass is blue too. The DIY is not saying anything about what
wire has to be there!?
Than i looked at the greddy manual and for vtec engines it says
DIY is saying ECU connector A #19 ---------------> E-manage #13(white) in, #16 (green)
I bouth my emanage from a 7thgen member and was than checking up how
he hooked it up and it was gray #12 white #13 yellow #14 light blue #15 . on the
e-manange main harnass. I thing i also read something about that gray
wire but dont know that exactly.
Hope i wrote it down a little better this time.
no prob on the reply live in belgium so different time.
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Rep Power: 326 K, look at my diagram on page 1:
Pin 13 on the emanage main harness is the airflow input (MAP)
Pin 17 on the emanage main harness is the airflow input (MAP)
Gray wire is for the TPS.
Just follow what's in the Greddy manual for vehicles with VTEC (unless you don't have vtec, don't wire up the vtec wires because you won't have them in your engine wiring harness anyways.)
Pin 13 on the emanage main harness is the airflow input (MAP)
Pin 17 on the emanage main harness is the airflow input (MAP)
Gray wire is for the TPS.
Just follow what's in the Greddy manual for vehicles with VTEC (unless you don't have vtec, don't wire up the vtec wires because you won't have them in your engine wiring harness anyways.)
Last edited by andyman97; 10-30-2005 at 10:35 AM.
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Rep Power: 243 could it be possible that you have some incorrect wirings on the schematics
in post 1?
this is what i got following the greddy manual and your info.
Think this is a right wiring now for a vtec setup
Ecu A con.----------------------Emanage
#7 Crank-----------------------nothing
#15 TPS r/blk ------------------#12 gray
#19 Map Grn/r------------------#13 white [in]- #17 green [out]
Ecu B con.----------------------Emanage
this is ok for my vtec
Ecu E con.----------------------Emanage
#26 ESP blu--------------------#16 Brown
So now take a look at your wiring in post 1 i think these are incorrect.
you used #18 two times and the rest isnt either according to greddy manual
and your info.
Ecu A con.----------------------Emanage
#7 crank ----------------------#15 brown
#15 TPS-----------------------#18 grey
#19 Map ----------------------#12 white [in]- #16 green [out]
Ecu B con.----------------------Emanage
#9 vtec oil press---------------#18 VTM [out]
in post 1?
this is what i got following the greddy manual and your info.
Think this is a right wiring now for a vtec setup
Ecu A con.----------------------Emanage
#7 Crank-----------------------nothing
#15 TPS r/blk ------------------#12 gray
#19 Map Grn/r------------------#13 white [in]- #17 green [out]
Ecu B con.----------------------Emanage
this is ok for my vtec
Ecu E con.----------------------Emanage
#26 ESP blu--------------------#16 Brown
So now take a look at your wiring in post 1 i think these are incorrect.
you used #18 two times and the rest isnt either according to greddy manual
and your info.
Ecu A con.----------------------Emanage
#7 crank ----------------------#15 brown
#15 TPS-----------------------#18 grey
#19 Map ----------------------#12 white [in]- #16 green [out]
Ecu B con.----------------------Emanage
#9 vtec oil press---------------#18 VTM [out]
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Rep Power: 326 I think I made some changes on my diagram after original posting that may shed some inaccuracies. You should be able to figure it out with the manual. As far as other things, I've upadated the original post to reflect.
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Rep Power: 0 no means to jack, but if using the PnP that eliminates the wiring right? atleast thats what i thought. Also can Pnp harness for Standard blue emanage work on the Ultimate? (lol i want pizza now.)
ty in advance
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Originally Posted by Matulin407
if using the PnP that eliminates the wiring right?
wondering the same thing, With the PnP harness from dezod, what would we have to do from this DIY?
