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I was heading towards Richmond Hill last night.. it was on the 403 to 401 ramp, when this superhero in a 2003 Corolla cut me off bad! With 5 people in it too.. dumb schmuck.. so I started to chase him down.. kept up with him.. was right up his *** all the way around the ramp. Give credit to the Eibach Pro-Kits, good BF goodrich rubber and my corner carving skills.

But as soon as the road opened up straight, he punched it, and DAMN.. he pulled on me H A R D.. I'll tell ya.. I've raced previous versions of Corollas, and it wasn't nearly this quick on the highway. This car went like a mad man, instantly pulling away and away from me. I had it floored, but wasn't doing any good. Scary part was that I was sole, and he had 5 peeps in it. I give major props to the new VVTi motors from Toyota..

 
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how fast u were going when corolla punch it?auto and 5spd make a HUGH different when over 120km

 
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before i bought my civic..... i was considering the corolla but the 2003 corolla was WAY too expensive back in the summer time...... so ended up wid the civic...... i test drove it..... the engine is REAL smooth..... toyota really puts their time into their motors...... same wid my buddys IS300...... silky smooth engine......

toyota corolla is a nice car..... but i'm glad i bought a civic...... corolla is too much of a "see lai" car..... (old chinese mother)

toyotas great cars

 
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I was going 140+.. of course stick makes huge difference. But stick is more benifitcal in the city, since you can drop your clutch for better take off. On the highway, stick is only better because of the shorter gearing ratio. Regardless, I was sitting at 5,000rpm+ which is my sweet spot, but it wasn't doing nothing.

Trust me guy... I know a fast car when I see it. Stick or auto, when a guy pulls on your like a bastard when he has 5 people it in, you gotta give him respect. That's like extra 600lb curb weight..

I've raced a lot of stick shift Civics, and never ever been pulled on that hard. I've even beaten older stick Accrords, which are pretty quick in their own rights. But not last night.. got owned.

I don't mean to bring up any stats, but a lot of magazines say Corollas are faster than Civics by anywhere from 0.5s to 1.5s to 1/4 mile.. I believe it now.

 
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stick to stick i think civic si wil win, my friend was in his celica gt auto and it got burned like a **** by a 7thgencivic si.......

 
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I hope so..... espeically off the line..

But don't mistake Civics are quicker than Celicas [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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i'm really confused... how can a civic si be faster than a celica gts? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG] doesn't the celica produce 180hp?

 
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no, a Si can never beat a gts unless the gts breakdown or the driver is sleeping or jerking off, but the Si and a gt come close, gt a little faster but driving skill can turn the table

 
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he said GT not gts please read

 
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Aaaaargh!!

Okay.. Civcs Si is not quicker than Celica GT either.. it's been discussed before.

 
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Who cares! the cars isn't in the same class, can't really compare it!

 
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I totally agree.. but.. this subject keep seems to come up, again and again by non-believers.

 
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who said Si is faster than gt?i only said its close and depends on the driver[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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I've spanked a 2003 corolla on the HWY before....took it all the way to the limiter

 
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VicLX.. really.. damn then your car must be super fast.. cause you say you "spanked" a Corolla, I am guessing you pulled hard on it (the same car that pulled on ME hard)..

I say we set up a drag.. what do you think? just for funs..

 
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im up for a drag with you[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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Oohh im getting all jittery and excited!!

Let's hook up at first sign of decent weather... good o'l street race [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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Corollas are

our hondas are

 
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hahaa ur getting owned alot lately hahahahaha
i think u need a tranny swap!!
plus u need to spend all ur flow just like 1028 does

 
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Limiter??

Are you talagang crazy?!!?!

 
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its not believers or non-believers, its what i saw after at least 3 tries, an AUTO 2003 Celica GT lost to a 7thgenCivic Si Manual by at least 1-2 car lengths,

Auto GT Celica is not fast, not saying Civic are amazingly fast

 
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can an AUTO GTS beat a 5speed civic si? what's the power difference between the GT and GTS?

 
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yes auto gts can beat a 5spd Si

 
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Please pardon my ignorance but does taking it to the rev limiter, mean to the red line? I just need some clarification there. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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Naww.. auto GTS is way slower than auto GT.. power deliver is totally different

 
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haha let me guess the GTS tranny or motor is heavier than the GT? [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
or the extra ponies = extra weight?
(kick the heavy chicks out of the car)[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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Actually in the beginning of the thread, I was just saying how I got smoked by a Corolla.. and for the record, I also got smoked by an auto Corolla in the past (125HP engine).. and I'm shocked to hear other people with automatic Civics claiming they SMOKED Corollas.

Because that means their cars must be WAY faster than mine.. didn't know intake & exhaust did that much for our cars.

I'm speaking from real experience, by owning Corolla, Civic and the Celica.. not by racing somebody who wasn't trying, or by racing somebody that didn't know how to drive.

But anyway, we should get together race for fun.. I'd like to see some fast 7th Gens from here, if there are any (only seen 1 thus far, with aid of nitros oxide)..

 
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Naw man. It's like this. Have you ever seen the dyno chart for the cars? Below 5,000RPM the GT is **WAY** more powerful than the GTS.. around 3,000RPM GT is making ridiciously more power.. nearly double.

And when you drive an automatic, you start out from idle, a tick above 1,000RPM. Floor both off the line, and GT will pull on it before GTS could even hit its "lift" zone. Hence, bye bye GTS.

I mentioned this in the past, but a bunch of Toyota sales guys my brother used to work with took a 4Runner to drag an automatic GTS. The 4Runner outpaced the autoGTS by 14+ car lengths.. why? Because 4Runner's gets 80% of its massive torque at lowly 2,000RPM.

In fact, after drivng an automatic GTS myself, it's about the slowest thing out there.. it hauls *** on the highway, but that's about it.

 
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cant wait till spring to have some runs......