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The new RX-8 is not a sports car like the RX-7. I don't know if you all saw the special about it on Speedvision. They went into this whole explanation about why it might be a sporty car, but its NOT a sports car. One of their main reasons was because it has 4 doors.
They say that Mazda built it for the people who grew up with the RX-7.
They say that Mazda built it for the people who grew up with the RX-7.
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Rep Power: 424 In Motor Trend (within the last 2 issues) it says there will most likely be an RX-7 a year or 2 after. The 2 door "sports car" version.
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Rep Power: 0 The new RX-8 is Naturally aspirated and has about the same power as the own RX-7 TT! The best part is this....9000 Redline! The guages look amazing, everything digital, center console aluminum brushed.
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Rep Power: 0 yes, the car has 4 "doors," but they are suicide doors, so only 2 actual doors. The RX-8 is designed to bring back the RX-7, if the 8 succeeds and people buy it, mazda will bring the 7 back. They just want to make sure the market is there for it. In the meantime though, they have a new car with a rotary that can compete with, say, the 350Z. Perhaps when they bring the RX-7 back, toyota will bring the Supra back. It would be nice for a sports car war :-)
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Rep Power: 0 I think RX-8 will be a huge failiure.. because:
1) Mixed opinion on looks.. but many people think it's ugly.
2) Competition is too stiff--for the same money, 350Z or S2000 could be had, and they are both quicker.
As for the 4-door part... I don't think it's a good idea. Is there even a market for it? Trying to be unique? The fact is, if you really desired utility AND sportiness, a BMW 3-series could be had for the price of an RX-8... and you also get an image boost too (BMW vs Mazda). Not to mention added comfort.
But I think that's what Mazda wants to do with this RX-8... slide somewhere inbetween the fine lines of sportscars & grand touring cars. It might work, but with the current estimated price, I don't think so.
1) Mixed opinion on looks.. but many people think it's ugly.
2) Competition is too stiff--for the same money, 350Z or S2000 could be had, and they are both quicker.
As for the 4-door part... I don't think it's a good idea. Is there even a market for it? Trying to be unique? The fact is, if you really desired utility AND sportiness, a BMW 3-series could be had for the price of an RX-8... and you also get an image boost too (BMW vs Mazda). Not to mention added comfort.
But I think that's what Mazda wants to do with this RX-8... slide somewhere inbetween the fine lines of sportscars & grand touring cars. It might work, but with the current estimated price, I don't think so.
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[hr]Originally posted by: O1Coupe
I think RX-8 will be a huge failiure.. because:
1) Mixed opinion on looks.. but many people think it's ugly.
2) Competition is too stiff--for the same money, 350Z or S2000 could be had, and they are both quicker.
As for the 4-door part... I don't think it's a good idea. Is there even a market for it? Trying to be unique? The fact is, if you really desired utility AND sportiness, a BMW 3-series could be had for the price of an RX-8... and you also get an image boost too (BMW vs Mazda). Not to mention added comfort.
But I think that's what Mazda wants to do with this RX-8... slide somewhere inbetween the fine lines of sportscars & grand touring cars. It might work, but with the current estimated price, I don't think so.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: O1Coupe
I think RX-8 will be a huge failiure.. because:
1) Mixed opinion on looks.. but many people think it's ugly.
2) Competition is too stiff--for the same money, 350Z or S2000 could be had, and they are both quicker.
As for the 4-door part... I don't think it's a good idea. Is there even a market for it? Trying to be unique? The fact is, if you really desired utility AND sportiness, a BMW 3-series could be had for the price of an RX-8... and you also get an image boost too (BMW vs Mazda). Not to mention added comfort.
But I think that's what Mazda wants to do with this RX-8... slide somewhere inbetween the fine lines of sportscars & grand touring cars. It might work, but with the current estimated price, I don't think so.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 Hmm... indeed rotary has potential.
But you have to realize that the real market buyers are not composed of people who modify cars. They buy them, and drive them... especially when it's a price car like the RX-8. And as it is right now, lack of value & weird gimmicks, I don't think "people" will go for it. Like I said, 350Z & S2000 (both award winning cars) are available for them at the same price.
But you have to realize that the real market buyers are not composed of people who modify cars. They buy them, and drive them... especially when it's a price car like the RX-8. And as it is right now, lack of value & weird gimmicks, I don't think "people" will go for it. Like I said, 350Z & S2000 (both award winning cars) are available for them at the same price.
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Rep Power: 0 I do agree that most of the market does buy car not to mod them but because they are the latest thing and thay want to be "cool" The reason I say the RX-8 will do well is because the RX-7 did so well. The people that grew up with that car know what the Wankel engine is and either loved it or hated it. I love the engine, always will. Since they grew up with it they know what to expect from it. For the most part people will buy it because it is new and then there are the true blue rotory fans, like myself, that will buy it for that reason. I haven't driven one yet so I can't say whether the car is worth it or not but from what I have seen they will sell. I know there is a HUGE scene for that engine in particular. It is all over San Diego. You just need to know where to look. Of course there is also the fact to take into consideration that it isn't an RX-7 so that may not be in Mazda's best intrest. I don't know I just think the car is going to do very well. That is just my opinion.
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Rep Power: 0 On a side note. The people that are most likely going to be getting the RX-8 will be the older people that have the money to blow. Most likely that car will not be a daily driver for most of the people that buy them it will just be a toy. I mean look at the NSX why doesn't it sell that well? Because it is an $80,000 Honda. Same with the S2000 it is a $40,000 Honda(but I will say the S2000 is a car that is a dime a dozen). The 350Z damn if I had $30,000 to spend I would take that over most cars on the road right now same with the G35 sport coupe. Basically it is a matter of preference. If you like the Wankel engine you will buy a RX-8 over anything else in it's price range. I mean look at the Z8 what makes that car worth $180,000? Well I know but still that is rediculous. Sadly I have seen a grip of those cars on the road. The money is there to be buying these cars. Sorry for such a long post.
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Rep Power: 0 It seems like everyone here is shuffling the RX-8 into the 'sports sedan' category (IS300, Altima, etc.) The truth is - the new RX-8 is designed as a true sports track car, with 50/50 front to rear weight distribution, and a lightweight aluminum chassis. The output of the new Renesis engine will be > 250 hp (exactly figure not confirmed yet), and it will be a high revving beast (9000 rpm redline). It is targeted toward the exact same demographic as the RX-7, and Mazda has NO PLANS to bring back the RX-7, so it's safe to say that the RX-8 is the new replacement for the RX-7.
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[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
It seems like everyone here is shuffling the RX-8 into the 'sports sedan' category (IS300, Altima, etc.) The truth is - the new RX-8 is designed as a true sports track car, with 50/50 front to rear weight distribution, and a lightweight aluminum chassis. The output of the new Renesis engine will be > 250 hp (exactly figure not confirmed yet), and it will be a high revving beast (9000 rpm redline). It is targeted toward the exact same demographic as the RX-7, and Mazda has NO PLANS to bring back the RX-7, so it's safe to say that the RX-8 is the new replacement for the RX-7.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: htowncivicEX
It seems like everyone here is shuffling the RX-8 into the 'sports sedan' category (IS300, Altima, etc.) The truth is - the new RX-8 is designed as a true sports track car, with 50/50 front to rear weight distribution, and a lightweight aluminum chassis. The output of the new Renesis engine will be > 250 hp (exactly figure not confirmed yet), and it will be a high revving beast (9000 rpm redline). It is targeted toward the exact same demographic as the RX-7, and Mazda has NO PLANS to bring back the RX-7, so it's safe to say that the RX-8 is the new replacement for the RX-7.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 I have been following the RX-8 very closely since this time last year and here is what is going on with it.
Mazda is making it as a sports car, but not as the sports car that many of you are particular with (ie: 2 doors, gobs of power...). Mazda isn't a conventional car company, look at it's cars, not many automotive companies have played with putting a rotory engine in thier line up.
As for power, personally I think that it could use a touch more torque, but I truely understand that high end torque is much better than low end torque. A turbo is also bery unlikely. If Mazdaspeed (the company that will make it a truely more outstanding car) does anything to the engine it is looking that they will add another rotor the the engine, giving a 3-rotors (the displacement equivelent of a V6).
The production of the RX-7 and MAZDA solely depend on this car. They have put so much into it that I cannot see a finacial way out of it if the RX-8 goes down. Ford brass did not want Mazda to bring back the rotory at all, and the renesis was developed by several engineers at Mazda on their own time.
My only query to Mazda is why did they use the design of the radio and climate controls... I don't like it at all, but it may grow on me.
For more information on the RX-8.... RX-8 Forum
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Mazda is making it as a sports car, but not as the sports car that many of you are particular with (ie: 2 doors, gobs of power...). Mazda isn't a conventional car company, look at it's cars, not many automotive companies have played with putting a rotory engine in thier line up.
As for power, personally I think that it could use a touch more torque, but I truely understand that high end torque is much better than low end torque. A turbo is also bery unlikely. If Mazdaspeed (the company that will make it a truely more outstanding car) does anything to the engine it is looking that they will add another rotor the the engine, giving a 3-rotors (the displacement equivelent of a V6).
The production of the RX-7 and MAZDA solely depend on this car. They have put so much into it that I cannot see a finacial way out of it if the RX-8 goes down. Ford brass did not want Mazda to bring back the rotory at all, and the renesis was developed by several engineers at Mazda on their own time.
My only query to Mazda is why did they use the design of the radio and climate controls... I don't like it at all, but it may grow on me.
For more information on the RX-8.... RX-8 Forum
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