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Old Aug 10, 2005
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Ford Dealers Suck

So my sister drove until her pads were down to metal on metal in her 04 focus. She only has 10,000 miles on her car so she brought it to the dealer wondering what the noise was. They tell her she melted her caliper and grinded down both rotors and it would be 700 dollars atleast with a sweet hook up to fix the issue. So since she is a college student csus she doesnt have that much money. She calls me and tells me whats goin on so i make some calls to the dealer and ask them whats wrong and they tell me she must have a new drivers side caliper 2 new rotors and new brake pads and all the labor and everything would come to 700 since the calipers need to be replaced. So i then call a ford recycler in town and find 2 new rotors for 10 a piece and a new caliper for 35 which comes with a 6 month warranty i then went to pepboys and paid 16 to have the rotors resurfaced and to grab some dot3 then to autozone for the 27 dollar lifetime warranty pads. so in the end i spent 118 dollars. i get home and my sisters car is waiting for me i take off the wheel, brake pads and rotors. HMMM they said the brake pad was melted to the caliper no no it wasnt it was perfectly fine.

long story short:
Ford said 700 dollars and 4 hours to complete job. If i didnt buy the parts they said had to be replaced but ended up being fine it would have cost me 67 dollars and 45 minutes.
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wow, shows what happens when a girl goes to a dealership. or any other shop on her own for that matter. thats exactly why me and my dad do all the car work for my sister. and yes ford dealerships suck, and so do the products
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and you're surprised at this? it's a dealership. they are out to make money.

for example. honda charges about $70-$80 to replace the cabin air filter.

the filter alone is about $20 and takes less than 3 minutes to change. do the math on that labor charge.
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very interesting. my dad needs new pads in the front for his club wagon (full sized van). the ford dealer wants to charge him $600!!!! i guess i'll be doing it for my dad to save him some money, i'm just afraid that the van is too heavy to lift tho...
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i am down to work on my sisters car but at less than 15k miles i assumed let her get the 27 dollar oil changes. and i understand they are out to make money but why lie? i hate that they just made my sister think every mechanic is shady. when i worked at a car audio shop everyone thought we were shady even though we only did work they asked for it was odd. its like they assumed since we worked on cars we lied. and i have always defended mechanics but now f it they are dicks.
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Originally Posted by nick95673
So my sister drove until her pads were down to metal on metal in her 04 focus. She only has 10,000 miles on her car so she brought it to the dealer wondering what the noise was. They tell her she melted her caliper and grinded down both rotors and it would be 700 dollars atleast with a sweet hook up to fix the issue. So since she is a college student csus she doesnt have that much money. She calls me and tells me whats goin on so i make some calls to the dealer and ask them whats wrong and they tell me she must have a new drivers side caliper 2 new rotors and new brake pads and all the labor and everything would come to 700 since the calipers need to be replaced. So i then call a ford recycler in town and find 2 new rotors for 10 a piece and a new caliper for 35 which comes with a 6 month warranty i then went to pepboys and paid 16 to have the rotors resurfaced and to grab some dot3 then to autozone for the 27 dollar lifetime warranty pads. so in the end i spent 118 dollars. i get home and my sisters car is waiting for me i take off the wheel, brake pads and rotors. HMMM they said the brake pad was melted to the caliper no no it wasnt it was perfectly fine.

long story short:
Ford said 700 dollars and 4 hours to complete job. If i didnt buy the parts they said had to be replaced but ended up being fine it would have cost me 67 dollars and 45 minutes.
I could have told you that a long time ago... hehe anyways there is no perfect dealership even honda has issues but overall yes i agree with you ford sucks
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all i have to say is its a dealership and i would never trust them with my car...dont know what they did and if they did it...rather do it myself or go to someone i trust
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very interesting. my dad needs new pads in the front for his club wagon (full sized van). the ford dealer wants to charge him $600!!!! i guess i'll be doing it for my dad to save him some money, i'm just afraid that the van is too heavy to lift tho...
for 600 dollars you can afford all the pads, correct jacks and heavy duty stands and still have money left over for dinner
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Originally Posted by nick95673
i am down to work on my sisters car but at less than 15k miles i assumed let her get the 27 dollar oil changes. and i understand they are out to make money but why lie? i hate that they just made my sister think every mechanic is shady. when i worked at a car audio shop everyone thought we were shady even though we only did work they asked for it was odd. its like they assumed since we worked on cars we lied. and i have always defended mechanics but now f it they are dicks.
dude i don't car what anyone says, any mechanic would take advantage of a woman and haggle with a guy. thats like sending a woman to buy a car. its suicide. chicks would actually be willing to pay sticker price. and in saying that your sister was considering getting the job done by the dealership till she called you. smart move on her part. even if she would have went to a shop they would have upped the price cause she was a chick. duh.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
and you're surprised at this? it's a dealership. they are out to make money.

for example. honda charges about $70-$80 to replace the cabin air filter.

the filter alone is about $20 and takes less than 3 minutes to change. do the math on that labor charge.
Show me where it cost $20. My dealer sells those filters for $60!
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brake pads completely shot at 10 k miles on a 04 focus? Thats ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by dalaw
Show me where it cost $20. My dealer sells those filters for $60!
I'm sure you can get it for $20, first website that came up in a seach has them for $30 here.

If you can, never buy stuff at the dealerships.
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brake pads completely shot at 10 k miles on a 04 focus? Thats ridiculous.
That's what I was thinking.
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holy ****. Call Ford's head office and file a complaint!!! Or atleast call the dealership and ask to talk to the manager about that.
Don't let them get away with it... tell him you're completely unsatisified by their service and say you'll never buy a car from them again.
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Originally Posted by dalaw
Show me where it cost $20. My dealer sells those filters for $60!
Yeah... that's what they charge YOU for the filter. Dealer cost on them is about $20.

In other words, they charge you $60 for a $20 filter, and then $69 in labor for something that takes 3 minutes to do.
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Originally Posted by MajinB
dude i don't car what anyone says, any mechanic would take advantage of a woman and haggle with a guy. thats like sending a woman to buy a car. its suicide. chicks would actually be willing to pay sticker price. and in saying that your sister was considering getting the job done by the dealership till she called you. smart move on her part. even if she would have went to a shop they would have upped the price cause she was a chick. duh.
My wife can out haggle anyone on this site! haha...just tell her where to find what the car is really worth and she will take the dealer down! Other than that she don't know **** about cars, but that is what I am for
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
Yeah... that's what they charge YOU for the filter. Dealer cost on them is about $20.

In other words, they charge you $60 for a $20 filter, and then $69 in labor for something that takes 3 minutes to do.
You can get the "generic" ones for like $10 a piece on hondaautomotiveparts. Dealer cost is $25 per filter and we have 2. So $50 for the filters. $10 for the service.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...=HEATER+BLOWER

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Originally Posted by robbclark1
My wife can out haggle anyone on this site! haha...just tell her where to find what the car is really worth and she will take the dealer down! Other than that she don't know **** about cars, but that is what I am for
My mother can ot hangle most people, but she just outright tells the sales people they are lieing to her and she wants to talk to the manager, then they really start to fumble with their words and the all the sudden the price goes down. It's rather funny to watch.
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with all these discount they offer for th cars, I think it might be reasonable for them to rip you off somewhere else.

They have to get the money somehow.
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They have to offer discounts, when it costs the same price for a focus or civic, which would you choose? The only I would take the focus is if they pratically give me the thing
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Originally Posted by dalaw
brake pads completely shot at 10 k miles on a 04 focus? Thats ridiculous.
Apparently its quite common on the Focus from what I've heard.
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damn i'd be pissed if my brakes were shot in 10K miles......then again it is a focus. Tell her to get rid of it and buy a Corolla or Civic.
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They have to offer discounts, when it costs the same price for a focus or civic, which would you choose? The only I would take the focus is if they pratically give me the thing
screw that, they would have to pay me to drive one
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Originally Posted by robbclark1
You can get the "generic" ones for like $10 a piece on hondaautomotiveparts. Dealer cost is $25 per filter and we have 2. So $50 for the filters. $10 for the service.

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...=HEATER+BLOWER
they looked the same to me when i changed mine. makes one heck of a difference in the a/c system so it's worth it either way.
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Originally Posted by dalaw
Show me where it cost $20. My dealer sells those filters for $60!


$20

http://www.handa-accessories.com/civmaint01.html
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Originally Posted by nick95673
So my sister drove until her pads were down to metal on metal in her 04 focus. She only has 10,000 miles on her car so she brought it to the dealer wondering what the noise was. They tell her she melted her caliper and grinded down both rotors and it would be 700 dollars atleast with a sweet hook up to fix the issue. So since she is a college student csus she doesnt have that much money. She calls me and tells me whats goin on so i make some calls to the dealer and ask them whats wrong and they tell me she must have a new drivers side caliper 2 new rotors and new brake pads and all the labor and everything would come to 700 since the calipers need to be replaced. So i then call a ford recycler in town and find 2 new rotors for 10 a piece and a new caliper for 35 which comes with a 6 month warranty i then went to pepboys and paid 16 to have the rotors resurfaced and to grab some dot3 then to autozone for the 27 dollar lifetime warranty pads. so in the end i spent 118 dollars. i get home and my sisters car is waiting for me i take off the wheel, brake pads and rotors. HMMM they said the brake pad was melted to the caliper no no it wasnt it was perfectly fine.

long story short:
Ford said 700 dollars and 4 hours to complete job. If i didnt buy the parts they said had to be replaced but ended up being fine it would have cost me 67 dollars and 45 minutes.

I say report the dealership to ford corporate and the BBB. Its illegal for mechanics to try to charge you for repairs you dont need.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
and you're surprised at this? it's a dealership. they are out to make money.

for example. honda charges about $70-$80 to replace the cabin air filter.

the filter alone is about $20 and takes less than 3 minutes to change. do the math on that labor charge.

HAHAHA, you should see the ad i got from Mike Harvey Honda in Burlingame, $118 to change the cabin air filter, i just spent $20 and changed the filters myself.
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