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Old May 18, 2005
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Ulev

Some folks on this board complain about how ULEV is holding back the Civic compared to the last few generation of Civic.

This may not be a fair comparison, but the TL has also achieved ULEV emissions rating.

http://www.acura.com/models/model_sp....asp?module=tl

ULEV isnt as bad as it may seem huh?
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Old May 18, 2005
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its not that ULEV means loss in performance, it means cleaner exhaust in the end. A high performance engine can be engineered to run very clean and honda/acura prides themselves in being the best car company ever. And on ULEV.
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Old May 19, 2005
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See the problem here is not that ULEV may mean slower. It does not. The biggest problem with ULEV is in Kali-fornia. The K20 is a LEV, the D17 a ULEV. You can legally swap a ULEV into an RSX, but not a LEV into a Civic. This sucks! You can only do same or cleaner in Kali. Damn, I hate California.

The Accord V6 is ULEV, I think. But it won't fit in the Civic.
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Even the S2000 is LEV
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the new 500 horse corvette motor is LEV, its not the emissions standard trust me. We have a very low displacement motor with no compression and an economy cam and everyone is amazed that it has no HP....Just get a lighter car. My VP seems pretty fast for what it is. It's no Viper, but I bought a cheap, low insurance, fun car..not a headache.
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