Modding a Civic!?!?!?
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Originally Posted by cambo
yea and we call those people idiots.
Listen, what's the point of this thread? to convince everyone on this site that spending $1k on your civic to make 10 whp is worth it? To many people its not.
I'd like to see you get your car dyno'd see what you're actually producing before you start more threads like these. Just because your head is telling you theres an increase in power, that doesn't mean you really are.
what i'm trying to say is, if you want to convince people, you need to show them proof. You're not going to change the minds of 20,000 members just because you say you're making more power. You need to show them some proof.
Listen, what's the point of this thread? to convince everyone on this site that spending $1k on your civic to make 10 whp is worth it? To many people its not.
I'd like to see you get your car dyno'd see what you're actually producing before you start more threads like these. Just because your head is telling you theres an increase in power, that doesn't mean you really are.
what i'm trying to say is, if you want to convince people, you need to show them proof. You're not going to change the minds of 20,000 members just because you say you're making more power. You need to show them some proof.
what more proof do you want?
Originally Posted by S2000man01
he gave proof. the guy with i/h/e/dp is pulling 125whp. a stock ex will dyno about 108-110whp. that's 15+WHP. crank is probably +20hp.
what more proof do you want?
what more proof do you want?
i think cambo is trying to point out that spending more then $1000 on mods that will yield 10-15hp is simply not worth it.
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the D17, as dyno proven, can gain 20+hp from i/h/e/dp. That's a decent gain.
Now throw nitrous into the mix. maybe people dont realize but lets say you take a civic with a 75shot wet kit to dyno it. then take a civic with a 75shot wet kit and i/h/e. do you realize that the car with bolt ons will get a MUCH BIGGER gain in power from the nitrous than the car without? with that much better breathing, the nitrous will add even more power and make the car even faster.
and race a stock civic with one that has an extra 20+hp from bolt ons and you're going to see quite a difference, with the stock one staring at tail lights all day long.
the D17, as dyno proven, can gain 20+hp from i/h/e/dp. That's a decent gain.
Now throw nitrous into the mix. maybe people dont realize but lets say you take a civic with a 75shot wet kit to dyno it. then take a civic with a 75shot wet kit and i/h/e. do you realize that the car with bolt ons will get a MUCH BIGGER gain in power from the nitrous than the car without? with that much better breathing, the nitrous will add even more power and make the car even faster.
and race a stock civic with one that has an extra 20+hp from bolt ons and you're going to see quite a difference, with the stock one staring at tail lights all day long.
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
i think cambo is trying to point out that spending more then $1000 on mods that will yield 10-15hp is simply not worth it.
and how many people cry out about the lack of a mass produced turbo kit or supercharger for the civic, or the fact that there is no hondata flash. yet then respond like this when someone says they spent 1000 bucks in bolt ons. and then wonder why no one will make more performance parts for the civic.
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Rep Power: 0 One of the best ways to know what kinda of hp your mods gave ya is, go to a local track run the quarter, then dyno it also. Im just saying if want really want to know what kinda of gain you got. If you got the kinda of gains you hoping for then post it. I am interested to know really what you get. I can tell you from experience as a car audio technition for thirteen years +, that the industry does one thing that I have allways hated espesially with amplifiers and its this... A company will test an amp @ 1000hz and show that the amps output @ 12volt (non bridged) is say 1000 watts, the problem here is
if your buying an amp for subs 1000hz is way to high. Lets say you buy the amp anyways cuz you didnt know. when you runs it to your subs the output is actually 200 watts rms. I see this industry of after market car goodies is the same, there is no one to really govern or police what these companies claim, Hence they can say that there CAI gives an increase of 8 - 10 hp and even show some made up dyno chart to prove it. You got remember these guys are in this to make money and things are not always what they seem...Just my opinion..later
if your buying an amp for subs 1000hz is way to high. Lets say you buy the amp anyways cuz you didnt know. when you runs it to your subs the output is actually 200 watts rms. I see this industry of after market car goodies is the same, there is no one to really govern or police what these companies claim, Hence they can say that there CAI gives an increase of 8 - 10 hp and even show some made up dyno chart to prove it. You got remember these guys are in this to make money and things are not always what they seem...Just my opinion..later
Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
Man, I bet you my $1150 set up will be equal or better than your $3000 turbo kit if its not boosted over 10 psi.
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read my sig, i have intake full exhaust, clutch, flywheel. everything cost me around 600 dollars, it was well worth it IMO
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Originally Posted by 02boostlessCIV
to prove it 
also, what were the conditions like when you got your car dyno'd?
air temp?
did they have fans running?
what octane gas were you using?
etc.
i'm j/w, thats all.
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Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
Man, I bet you my $1150 set up will be equal or better than your $3000 turbo kit if its not boosted over 10 psi.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
i see a lot of unfounded bashing going on.
the D17, as dyno proven, can gain 20+hp from i/h/e/dp. That's a decent gain.
Now throw nitrous into the mix. maybe people dont realize but lets say you take a civic with a 75shot wet kit to dyno it. then take a civic with a 75shot wet kit and i/h/e. do you realize that the car with bolt ons will get a MUCH BIGGER gain in power from the nitrous than the car without? with that much better breathing, the nitrous will add even more power and make the car even faster.
and race a stock civic with one that has an extra 20+hp from bolt ons and you're going to see quite a difference, with the stock one staring at tail lights all day long.
the D17, as dyno proven, can gain 20+hp from i/h/e/dp. That's a decent gain.
Now throw nitrous into the mix. maybe people dont realize but lets say you take a civic with a 75shot wet kit to dyno it. then take a civic with a 75shot wet kit and i/h/e. do you realize that the car with bolt ons will get a MUCH BIGGER gain in power from the nitrous than the car without? with that much better breathing, the nitrous will add even more power and make the car even faster.
and race a stock civic with one that has an extra 20+hp from bolt ons and you're going to see quite a difference, with the stock one staring at tail lights all day long.
an LX vs. EX race has been pretty much proven to be a drivers race and thats with a 12 hp and gearing difference (since the last time i checked).
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Rep Power: 400 I've never seen an LX hit a 15.8. I think the lx and dx are around a 16.1 at best stock. an lx vs ex are NOT a driver's race. close, but the ex will pull all day.
but now you are comparing cars with different weights and different gearing, so it really doesn't apply to what i was saying.
again, race a stock ex vs a stock ex with another 15whp and you're going to have the stock ex staring at tail lights all day.
but now you are comparing cars with different weights and different gearing, so it really doesn't apply to what i was saying.
again, race a stock ex vs a stock ex with another 15whp and you're going to have the stock ex staring at tail lights all day.
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Originally Posted by Caucasian.Asian
if you want an intake just for sound buy a $20 intake from eBay and slap an injen decal on it.
Do it right and get a real one, its what $200 bucks? 
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Originally Posted by HustleLikeM0FO
duuuuurrr, i dont know how to mod a V6. since V6 is only one car i hope you guys know which one i'm tlaking about, durrrrr
i kinda get what s2000man is trying to say, if you want to take your car to the track with nitrous n bolt-ons, then it is worth it....of course if you are that hard core with it you better have your interior gutted or i would laugh
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stock, my motor claims 180hp and 130 ro so tq.... i dynoed it and got 226 all motor... on i/h/e and cam gears... on 94 octane..... i spent, 145 on aem intake, 199 on dc 4-1 header, 55 on test pipe, and 236 or something like that on greddy exhuast... 650$... or so... for 40+hp all the time....... and yes, i could feel a difference... obvioudly...
not to mention i spend another 325 for my nitrous 65hp shot...
not to mention i spend another 325 for my nitrous 65hp shot...
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Rep Power: 0 s2000 he stated that simple bolt ons made this power that he could feal. he said nothing about nitros and bolt on's. the fact still is hes wasting cash who cares about 15hp gained plus he seems to think grounding will add more then 5hp where it was shown that it only added something like 1.blah whatever a while back.
he has chainged his toon a few times.
and i will wash your car s2000 if you can show me a dyno that bolt ons gave a d17 i/h/e a 22hp increase.
he has chainged his toon a few times.
and i will wash your car s2000 if you can show me a dyno that bolt ons gave a d17 i/h/e a 22hp increase.
Finally Some people that dont give up on the d17.If hondata came out with that ecu upgrad it would be a rap.Compcams for the d17 will come out this summer its a rap. so either way u look at Bolt ons for the d17 will equal power real soon.Im still a d17 rider
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Originally Posted by deciuss
s2000 he stated that simple bolt ons made this power that he could feal. he said nothing about nitros and bolt on's. the fact still is hes wasting cash who cares about 15hp gained plus he seems to think grounding will add more then 5hp where it was shown that it only added something like 1.blah whatever a while back.
he has chainged his toon a few times.
and i will wash your car s2000 if you can show me a dyno that bolt ons gave a d17 i/h/e a 22hp increase.
he has chainged his toon a few times.
and i will wash your car s2000 if you can show me a dyno that bolt ons gave a d17 i/h/e a 22hp increase.
that's about 17 WHEEL horsepower over stock. that would be more than the required 22 crank horsepower you are looking for.
wednesday work for you? lol
as for his grounding kit, i know nothing about them so i can't comment. but anyways, to me, as I said, the sound, look, and 15 extra wheel horsepower for some bolt ons is worth it.
I have a CAI which gives me a whopping 3-4hp, but I still got it because I like the sound and how it cleans up the engine bay.
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Originally Posted by Killacamshaft
Finally Some people that dont give up on the d17.If hondata came out with that ecu upgrad it would be a rap.Compcams for the d17 will come out this summer its a rap. so either way u look at Bolt ons for the d17 will equal power real soon.Im still a d17 rider
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Originally Posted by gsrchad
stock, my motor claims 180hp and 130 ro so tq.... i dynoed it and got 226 all motor... on i/h/e and cam gears... on 94 octane..... i spent, 145 on aem intake, 199 on dc 4-1 header, 55 on test pipe, and 236 or something like that on greddy exhuast... 650$... or so... for 40+hp all the time....... and yes, i could feel a difference... obvioudly...
not to mention i spend another 325 for my nitrous 65hp shot...
not to mention i spend another 325 for my nitrous 65hp shot...
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im stock now! T.T
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Rep Power: 289 wow, deep thread. Anyways, no way a stock lx going to take an ex. My bro has lx I have ex, his **** is so slow that even if i dont know how to drive, I will still eat him! the lxs are freaking slow!!! especially on freeway, when you punch it, it wont go like the ex can.
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Rep Power: 0 the ex cant go eather... both are slow past 60 on the freeway. heck its still a dead zone for when i turboed my car.
unless your talking about getting up to speed on the on ramp. maybe my cars broken but when i try to floor it with even the turbo on after i have reached 65 its hard to get more speed outa the sucker. althow i have an auto and it sounds like you have a M/t so im not sure.
i know the auto has one less gear (i belive) 4 vs 5
any ways i would love to see some slips posted of just bolt ons once the summer hits. would be interesting to see the time off the track not just how much hp since some of the mods like the intake will add power low end take some from the top? ect ect.
sorry i dont want it to seem like im just knocking you im interested to see what they are able to do at the track.
unless your talking about getting up to speed on the on ramp. maybe my cars broken but when i try to floor it with even the turbo on after i have reached 65 its hard to get more speed outa the sucker. althow i have an auto and it sounds like you have a M/t so im not sure.
i know the auto has one less gear (i belive) 4 vs 5
any ways i would love to see some slips posted of just bolt ons once the summer hits. would be interesting to see the time off the track not just how much hp since some of the mods like the intake will add power low end take some from the top? ect ect.
sorry i dont want it to seem like im just knocking you im interested to see what they are able to do at the track.
