civic vs cobalt
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so a stock civic will beat a srt-4 or a cobalt in an auto x???? allllllllllllllllriiiiiiiiiight
dont get me wrong i had an 01 ex with koni struts, neuspeed race springs, swaybar, both strut tower bars and a rear tie brace before i got a srt-4. all i've done to the susp. on it is eibach springs, endlinks a strut bar and urethane swaybar bushings and they handle about the same. i'm just saying the handling argument isn't too valid. oh and as far as the modding the car thing goes, its much more fun to do the same stuff to an already fast car. with the civic no matter what i did to it I didn't see too much of an improvement. with the srt or NEON i see drastic improvements in almost every mod and it makes it more fun to drive everyday.
nobody take too much offense lol, ive been on this site for 4 years so im not trolling
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dont get me wrong i had an 01 ex with koni struts, neuspeed race springs, swaybar, both strut tower bars and a rear tie brace before i got a srt-4. all i've done to the susp. on it is eibach springs, endlinks a strut bar and urethane swaybar bushings and they handle about the same. i'm just saying the handling argument isn't too valid. oh and as far as the modding the car thing goes, its much more fun to do the same stuff to an already fast car. with the civic no matter what i did to it I didn't see too much of an improvement. with the srt or NEON i see drastic improvements in almost every mod and it makes it more fun to drive everyday.
nobody take too much offense lol, ive been on this site for 4 years so im not trolling
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its 145 hp, is it heavier than the EX Civic Coupe? Our civics are about 2600 pounds. The cobalt coupe ls is 525$ cheaper than the civic. There a base Mazda 3 with 148 hp which is 14,240, slighly more expensive than the base cobalt which is 14,190.
How come the American Cars aren't much cheaper than the japanese. Mazda 3 is still made in Japan. I understand that the civic and corrola are assembled in north america but there parts are shipped from Japan. The American car companies clearly have the competitive advantage, but there still loosing market share.
its 145 hp, is it heavier than the EX Civic Coupe? Our civics are about 2600 pounds. The cobalt coupe ls is 525$ cheaper than the civic. There a base Mazda 3 with 148 hp which is 14,240, slighly more expensive than the base cobalt which is 14,190.
How come the American Cars aren't much cheaper than the japanese. Mazda 3 is still made in Japan. I understand that the civic and corrola are assembled in north america but there parts are shipped from Japan. The American car companies clearly have the competitive advantage, but there still loosing market share.
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Originally Posted by jamesbbh
so a stock civic will beat a srt-4 or a cobalt in an auto x???? allllllllllllllllriiiiiiiiiight
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Originally Posted by jamesbbh
so a stock civic will beat a srt-4 or a cobalt in an auto x???? allllllllllllllllriiiiiiiiiight
Civic is a great Auto X car. Thats a type of racing where Horsepower is highly overrated.
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Originally Posted by nindoo
I understand that the civic and corrola are assembled in north america but there parts are shipped from Japan.
a civic has more american parts in it than your average ford truck.
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Rep Power: 0 Man this guys got some set on him A!. There are more then just one reason why buying that car is a mistake, I'll add to the allready massive pile!!!
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the cars is brand new and has not even gone through thoro testing like the ford fungus, it will probably end up with a hundred recalls which may I remind you I have only got one letter in the mail for my piece of crap civic and it was over something miniscule
,not saying theres only one eitherway you guys get my point. They wont make anything for that car for at least 2 years, so your stuck with junk...LOL hell the scion tc is 140hp for 16,000.00 there alot cars out there for the same price as the civic with more HP. What were telling you and just not getting it, Pound for pound and dollar for dollar is the honda civic will out weight that hunk of munkey turd and most other cars in its class, the civic is 5 star crash rated, the resell value is higher then any other car in its class but hey what do we know!!!! 
reason #567:
the cars is brand new and has not even gone through thoro testing like the ford fungus, it will probably end up with a hundred recalls which may I remind you I have only got one letter in the mail for my piece of crap civic and it was over something miniscule
,not saying theres only one eitherway you guys get my point. They wont make anything for that car for at least 2 years, so your stuck with junk...LOL hell the scion tc is 140hp for 16,000.00 there alot cars out there for the same price as the civic with more HP. What were telling you and just not getting it, Pound for pound and dollar for dollar is the honda civic will out weight that hunk of munkey turd and most other cars in its class, the civic is 5 star crash rated, the resell value is higher then any other car in its class but hey what do we know!!!! Joined: Dec 2001
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oooooooooohhh and what do you have to say to that James? 
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reason #567:
the cars is brand new and has not even gone through thoro testing like the ford fungus, it will probably end up with a hundred recalls which may I remind you I have only got one letter in the mail for my piece of crap civic and it was over something miniscule ,not saying theres only one eitherway you guys get my point. They wont make anything for that car for at least 2 years, so your stuck with junk...LOL hell the scion tc is 140hp for 16,000.00 there alot cars out there for the same price as the civic with more HP. What were telling you and just not getting it, Pound for pound and dollar for dollar is the honda civic will out weight that hunk of munkey turd and most other cars in its class, the civic is 5 star crash rated, the resell value is higher then any other car in its class but hey what do we know!!!!
ps: I live mich I'll run it anytime!!!Bring cash!!!
reason #567:
the cars is brand new and has not even gone through thoro testing like the ford fungus, it will probably end up with a hundred recalls which may I remind you I have only got one letter in the mail for my piece of crap civic and it was over something miniscule
,not saying theres only one eitherway you guys get my point. They wont make anything for that car for at least 2 years, so your stuck with junk...LOL hell the scion tc is 140hp for 16,000.00 there alot cars out there for the same price as the civic with more HP. What were telling you and just not getting it, Pound for pound and dollar for dollar is the honda civic will out weight that hunk of munkey turd and most other cars in its class, the civic is 5 star crash rated, the resell value is higher then any other car in its class but hey what do we know!!!! ps: I live mich I'll run it anytime!!!Bring cash!!!
on top of all that, the SI EP3 will spank any stock 7th gen stock on drag and in auto-x, and its STILL less $$ then a cobalt SS. By 2-3k and only 3-4k more then the crap base cobalt.
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Originally Posted by sissycivic
i dont get yall civics arent race cars, i got a 11 second pick up truck sittin in the garage, civics are made for 2 things only, looking good, and cheap on gas, and thats pretty much it, who care if it can take a corner going 30 when competition can do it only going 28 NOBODY!! thats not even racing anyway thats just sliding with style.
what was i thinking.oh and forget auto x. i mean geez, another area where my little 4 cylinder merely dominates it's class. but again, that doesn't mean anything either i guess.
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Rep Power: 0 I saw the car at the L.A. auto show and liked it. For the price and what your getting it is a nice car. But if you have hopes for customizing it, you better be pacient. I dot think the car will have a quick impact no matter how much they advertise it. If anything it will be like the focus, nice car that critics like and rave about but not too popular in the tuner world.
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Originally Posted by sissycivic
i dont get yall civics arent race cars, i got a 11 second pick up truck sittin in the garage, civics are made for 2 things only, looking good, and cheap on gas, and thats pretty much it, who care if it can take a corner going 30 when competition can do it only going 28 NOBODY!! thats not even racing anyway thats just sliding with style.
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Rep Power: 0 [QUOTE=S2000man01]yeah. me and my damn 4 cylinder running 13.7 without use of forced induction. what was i thinking.
LoL, should i remind you that a s200 has a compression ratio of 11:something. put that in a v8 and itll own the **** outta a s2000
what was i thinking.LoL, should i remind you that a s200 has a compression ratio of 11:something. put that in a v8 and itll own the **** outta a s2000
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a stock mustang is 9:1
stock camaro is 9:1
you really think that a V8 domestic is going to get 120hp/liter by changing the compression ratio?
educate yourself before you speak. you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
a stock mustang is 9:1
stock camaro is 9:1
you really think that a V8 domestic is going to get 120hp/liter by changing the compression ratio?
educate yourself before you speak. you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
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Here is what im gonna do im gonna go down and test drive the damn thing...and ill be very honest about its performance and all..
Ill look at evrything from fit and finish to performance to comfort...
Ill get back to you on this soon..
I urge any of you to do the same ....
Here is what im gonna do im gonna go down and test drive the damn thing...and ill be very honest about its performance and all..
Ill look at evrything from fit and finish to performance to comfort...
Ill get back to you on this soon..
I urge any of you to do the same ....
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I am lost here. People keep saying how cheap you can get a cobalt yadyada...I just simply go ask about the price. And here is the following:
2005 Cobalt LT: ~19k MSRP CAD
2005 Civic LX-G (no vtec):~18.4k MSRP CAk
Please note the model I am comparing, both of them are basic model with power door and power winsheld. The only difference is cobalt has a bit more HP, but civic has sunroofs.
I am not sure what other people consider when they buy a car, but from this comparison I am pretty much sure you will simply see more Civic than Cobalt in Canada in no time. No one would pay more for a bad name car with a bit more written HP when they can a economical, reliable, nicely equiped Civic.
Is it possible that Cobalt is cheaper in the US?
(In Canada)
I am lost here. People keep saying how cheap you can get a cobalt yadyada...I just simply go ask about the price. And here is the following:
2005 Cobalt LT: ~19k MSRP CAD
2005 Civic LX-G (no vtec):~18.4k MSRP CAk
Please note the model I am comparing, both of them are basic model with power door and power winsheld. The only difference is cobalt has a bit more HP, but civic has sunroofs.
I am not sure what other people consider when they buy a car, but from this comparison I am pretty much sure you will simply see more Civic than Cobalt in Canada in no time. No one would pay more for a bad name car with a bit more written HP when they can a economical, reliable, nicely equiped Civic.
Is it possible that Cobalt is cheaper in the US?
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Originally Posted by orion_squall
hey....
(In Canada)
I am lost here. People keep saying how cheap you can get a cobalt yadyada...I just simply go ask about the price. And here is the following:
2005 Cobalt LT: ~19k MSRP CAD
2005 Civic LX-G (no vtec):~18.4k MSRP CAk
Please note the model I am comparing, both of them are basic model with power door and power winsheld. The only difference is cobalt has a bit more HP, but civic has sunroofs.
I am not sure what other people consider when they buy a car, but from this comparison I am pretty much sure you will simply see more Civic than Cobalt in Canada in no time. No one would pay more for a bad name car with a bit more written HP when they can a economical, reliable, nicely equiped Civic.
Is it possible that Cobalt is cheaper in the US?
(In Canada)
I am lost here. People keep saying how cheap you can get a cobalt yadyada...I just simply go ask about the price. And here is the following:
2005 Cobalt LT: ~19k MSRP CAD
2005 Civic LX-G (no vtec):~18.4k MSRP CAk
Please note the model I am comparing, both of them are basic model with power door and power winsheld. The only difference is cobalt has a bit more HP, but civic has sunroofs.
I am not sure what other people consider when they buy a car, but from this comparison I am pretty much sure you will simply see more Civic than Cobalt in Canada in no time. No one would pay more for a bad name car with a bit more written HP when they can a economical, reliable, nicely equiped Civic.
Is it possible that Cobalt is cheaper in the US?
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Originally Posted by nindoo
Our SI(EX in the United States) Costs slightly more than the LS coupe Cobalt. The SI(EX) civic coupe has all the bells and whistles plus the extra horsepower, and a sunroof. It doesn't cost much more though.
Please notice the cobalt sedan is more expensive than Civic too! (comparing with the most sold model LS-G)!
I just don't believe the statement "you pay less to get better" applys to American car at all. We definitely made the right choice from buying civic.
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Originally Posted by nindoo
What's better about engines with higher compression?
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Originally Posted by _Viper_
Cobalt = Rental Fleet Car NUFF SAID
Here is what im gonna do im gonna go down and test drive the damn thing...and ill be very honest about its performance and all..
Ill look at evrything from fit and finish to performance to comfort...
Ill get back to you on this soon..
I urge any of you to do the same ....
Here is what im gonna do im gonna go down and test drive the damn thing...and ill be very honest about its performance and all..
Ill look at evrything from fit and finish to performance to comfort...
Ill get back to you on this soon..
I urge any of you to do the same ....
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
the higher the compression, the more hp you get from the explosion in the chamber. the reason being because as the air is pressurized/compressed, it becomes more volatile and more explosive.
So the lower the compression ratio...the less air to burn. Higher ratio means more air to burn which means more horsepower, but also means less reliable with any forced induction or nitrous. Naturally aspirated a good c.r. would be 11:1 for good horsepower numbers. understand what it means more now?
