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Old Oct 12, 2004
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really. i mean how much horsepower do we need to have a "quick" car. Im talking about Daily Drivers. I know **** hp and torque the better, but how much above base do we need to have a car that can hold its on in crazy traffic, against that punk silvarado, the insane soccer mom in the suv and so on. does anyone have thoughts on this? i know that people are all about boost or swaping, i acknowledge that in the end they are more effecient money wise but the bottom line is that vs. a IHE setup they are tripple the price. is a IHE setup enough just to liven the car up a little? thanks ahead of time for comments and wisdom.
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I/H/E wont give you much...
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if you don't wanna boost or swap. sell u car and get an integra or rsx. i/h/e from what i heard is a waste.
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Originally Posted by nikoscivicex
I/H/E wont give you much...
I/H/E robs the low end, so unless this daily driver stays in the higher revs, then it won't do anything really.
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Yea swap or get a TL
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Man, its all about timing!
Intake, headers, exhaust Is what, going to get you 20-30hp? That is pushing it too.
You can go with a turbo that will get you another 50-80hp if you have $3000 under you pillow to spend. Perhaps you can go with a engine swap? Again, if you have the money to get it, then get it.
For a everyday driver, spray that SH*T! If you research it, their is a safe amount of shots you can put into your engine without harming it that much. (You should almost 1hp per shot.)
Really you would only need Nitrous be quick enough to cut in front of them.
*Just dont go over board, Nitrous is fun and all, but too will wear your engine a lot quicker!
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Originally Posted by cambo
I/H/E robs the low end, so unless this daily driver stays in the higher revs, then it won't do anything really.
agreed
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Originally Posted by Civic_2002
Man, its all about timing!
Intake, headers, exhaust Is what, going to get you 20-30hp? That is pushing it too.
20-30 hp? on what car are you talking about?

on the D17, you'll get maybe 7-10 whp at the cost of your low end.

7-10 whp for what? 1 grand?
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boost or swap or the easiest is just buy a new car
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Just accept that your civic is at the bottom of the car chain.
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Originally Posted by Civic_2002
Man, its all about timing!
Intake, headers, exhaust Is what, going to get you 20-30hp? That is pushing it too.
You can go with a turbo that will get you another 50-80hp if you have $3000 under you pillow to spend. Perhaps you can go with a engine swap? Again, if you have the money to get it, then get it.
For a everyday driver, spray that SH*T! If you research it, their is a safe amount of shots you can put into your engine without harming it that much. (You should almost 1hp per shot.)
Really you would only need Nitrous be quick enough to cut in front of them.
*Just dont go over board, Nitrous is fun and all, but too will wear your engine a lot quicker!
i would hope no one would buy nitrous so they can pass people in traffic. additionally, our cars are all ready swift enough to handle daily driving. if you really need to pass someone that bad, drop gears, if you don't have a standard then just put some decent pressure on the gas pedal and the steptronic will do the rest.
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Originally Posted by nikoscivicex
I/H/E wont give you much...
YUP!!! waste of time and money save your I/H/E stash and but a turbo kit and you will only spend another grand maybe!
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Just accept that your civic is at the bottom of the car chain.

Why did you have to tell it like it is!
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Originally Posted by cambo
20-30 hp? on what car are you talking about?

on the D17, you'll get maybe 7-10 whp at the cost of your low end.

7-10 whp for what? 1 grand?
lol he was playing a little too much grand turismo
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To make the Civic more livable in daily driving, personally I would say another 40WHP would help! But some other ppl might say 200WHP is a must......... it's up to you.
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lightweight rims could help your car overall. im talking like 15" slipstreams or those major tuner wheels. i/h/e pretty much robs low end but increase little high end (which is not worth 1g at all). with 1g, you can get a set of light wheels which could improve traction, inertia, quicker accel from point A to B, even looks , and few others.

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in theory the best solution for a "daily driver" (kept under 5k alot of the time) would be a decent supercharger. They provide alot more low end gain as opposed to a turbo providing for alot of high end gain. Our cars are weak all around, but with some more torque right from idle up we would be significantly quicker. now good luck finding one.
Another plus is the lack of requirement of changing alot of other components, i.e. fuel system, headers, etc. superchargers with a nice higher flow cat-back would do our D17s so well.
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im thinking about getting dezods turbo kit next summer, but then i started thinking that i could get a 99' si and put a greddy turbo and exhaust. 6th gen are ugly in my opinion but i would be running like 210-220 whp? thats seems like enough hp for a civic.
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like i said, get a GSR or RSX or 00 SI.
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