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Old Oct 6, 2004
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
I hate you.......
damn elise are sexy cars....

thought I already settled the dodge srt delima... Like it or not the srt-4 is a better car than an ep3 stock vs stock.
here truth about cars we can afford in our lifetime

civic ep3=econo car modded its a "rice rocket"
srt-4= afforidible little hot rod..
s2000=over priced roadster
rx8= not an rx7 not that its suppose to be! its a family "sports car"
evo=what i dont care how my car looks holy **** did I just go around the race track that fast?
sti=same as evo hardcore track, autocross, rally drivers "nich market"
350z=I got a kickass japanese sports car "enough said"
g35=got a kickass sports coupe travel in luxury style
lotus elise= I am a lucky son of a bitch be jelous of me now!!!!!
lotus esprit v8= hi I am under 5'8 in height and my car has perfect 50/50 weight distrubtion price=65 grand (somewhat rich guys ferrari!)
corvette=American sports car generations passed down kids dream owning car like thier dad one day
^ya thats me
saturn redline= I am built with autocross inmind Im targeting middle states of america that dont like imports and dont have enough for an srt-4.
scion all of them = cheap target teenager cars
porsche= i paid to much for less peformance than a vette put hey im all luxury and status.
viper= OMG never thought own one of these
Altima=ya I got a family now
maxima=muahahahaha people underestimate this family sedans power
sentra SER= I dont care looks like *** I dont care if its not the fastest! its a nissan
mustang=I dont know jack **** about cars
mustang gt= American owns 5.1 sec 0-60 and omg my cars interiror is cheaper than an evo inside ohh no evo its 4.9 (proffesional driver times motortrend new mustang btw)
ohh ya curb weight new suckstang is 3500lbs

personal note I'm trading in my civic next year for maybe purchasing 1 of 2 cars I am interested in above based on my college student funds. i am ready to move out of the ricerocket boyracer and into a sports car
Okay, you mention the esprit has a 50/50 weight distribution, and then you put " " quotations around sports car for RX-8, like some kind of mockery. The RX-8 has a perfect 50/50 weight distribution REGARDLESS of passenger weight. Just thought I'd point that out.
http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/v...erience_id=622

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Originally Posted by modoman
porsche out performs a vette anyday, white castle
Not entirly true.... There are 2 classes in SCCA solo 2 compititon where Corvettes and Porsches battle it out every year. Super Stock and A-Stock
IN SS you have the Z06 Corvette vs the Porsche 996 Turbo, the 911 Turbo and the 930 Turbo... Every year since the Z06 has been out SS has been wone Hands down by people driving the Z06... Hell the class may as well be renamed Spec Z06. (On a side note, the car to have in SS before the Z06 showed up was the RX-7 Turbo ('93+)) In A-Stock Every year its a C4 corvette winning, though this year a few S2000 gave some of the Vettes a run for their money.


So to say Porsche out performs vette any day is just incorect, in fact Stock Vs stock I'd take the Z06 over just about any porsche out there, asside from the Odd GT3..... BTW, I passed a GT3 with my civic at the last Track day event....
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Originally Posted by jttegx
does everything have to relate to a or your neon?


i dont think honda would ever make a FI production car. their known as economy cars (well, in the states), great for their technology, and reliability. if they can squeeze 100 hp per liter on a 4cly going n/a, i bet their turbo's would be pretty dam impressive..
I related it to my neon because he was talking about my neon to start with. he began saying how an saturn ion is like the srt-4 and then wished honda would make a FI FWD car...

And besides, it's a good example...it's not like there are tons of production FI FWD cars running around here...

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Sorry, i get side tracked everytime you mention ions. Don't know what it is, but it just causes me to go chaotic because of its sexiness...
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ohhhh well if you mean z06, say z06 >_< i love it too except for the build quality (cough)
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Not entirly true.... There are 2 classes in SCCA solo 2 compititon where Corvettes and Porsches battle it out every year. Super Stock and A-Stock
IN SS you have the Z06 Corvette vs the Porsche 996 Turbo, the 911 Turbo and the 930 Turbo... Every year since the Z06 has been out SS has been wone Hands down by people driving the Z06... Hell the class may as well be renamed Spec Z06. (On a side note, the car to have in SS before the Z06 showed up was the RX-7 Turbo ('93+)) In A-Stock Every year its a C4 corvette winning, though this year a few S2000 gave some of the Vettes a run for their money.


So to say Porsche out performs vette any day is just incorect, in fact Stock Vs stock I'd take the Z06 over just about any porsche out there, asside from the Odd GT3..... BTW, I passed a GT3 with my civic at the last Track day event....
yup he is sooo right!


can't wait to see what new c6 z51's do and next years z06
track to track on "top gear" a c6 z51 posted faster lap times than a porsche carrera gt3, now thats impressive.
about my rx-8 comment its a great car thats why won top gears sports car of the year award. Its a family sports car having a rear seat and all...
just like a trans am though either hate it or love it

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Originally Posted by DodgeNeonSRT-4
I related it to my neon because he was talking about my neon to start with. he began saying how an saturn ion is like the srt-4 and then wished honda would make a FI FWD car...

And besides, it's a good example...it's not like there are tons of production FI FWD cars running around here...

read before you post fool
so why does it have to be YOUR neon in general? he said "a" neon, not "yours"
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what about z06 vs gt2? im not very impressed with the gt3 personally.
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Originally Posted by modoman
what about z06 vs gt2? im not very impressed with the gt3 personally.
gt2 is a 180 thousand dallor car!!! your comparing to it to 55 thousand dallor car I sure hope it is better!!!!!
statements like this make me happy about vettes that it infact can be rated against cars that cost more than 3 times the price.
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^ yea but im a huge porsche fan
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who really cares hondas are slow as hell at first but with a little effort and alot of money you can turn them into something fast as with saturn granted the interiors are shabby but there was a time when that **** didn't matter and it really shouldn't because that stuff gets changed anyway, I for one don't care for interior I usually scrap the interior throw on a roll cage and start autocrossing if your a real racer not a ****ing ricer you should feel the same **** interior and **** anybody that doubts any car they think they can beat because have the time at the track hondas get beat almost all the time no matter what setup you have there is always someone out there with a better and faster ride
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we dont all scrap interiors and race everything... some of us use cars for fun AND daily drivers....................... hmmm try usin periods too...........................
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Originally Posted by josuemgarcia
who really cares hondas are slow as hell at first but with a little effort and alot of money you can turn them into something fast as with saturn granted the interiors are shabby but there was a time when that **** didn't matter and it really shouldn't because that stuff gets changed anyway, I for one don't care for interior I usually scrap the interior throw on a roll cage and start autocrossing if your a real racer not a ****ing ricer you should feel the same **** interior and **** anybody that doubts any car they think they can beat because have the time at the track hondas get beat almost all the time no matter what setup you have there is always someone out there with a better and faster ride
Okay moron, I guess guys who buy Ferraris scrap their interiors too so that they can be FASTAR!!!!
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Okay moron, I guess guys who buy Ferraris scrap their interiors too so that they can be FASTAR!!!!
that statement owns!

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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
that statement owns!
yeah except for the spelling of fastar.
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so why does it have to be YOUR neon in general? he said "a" neon, not "yours"
I was using the term neon in general...I call it mine because I own one...I was trying to represent the srt-4 drivers who could not speak for themselves

kinda like people say wow my Yankees are doing well this year.

and if you're going to pick a fight with a neon, I'm going to just suggest that you don't pick a fight with mine...

I can't believe I'm arguing symantics...next someone's going to tell me that I'm arguing srt-4's and he's arguing neons... ...even though we were both using the term neon to refer to the srt-4...
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Originally Posted by josuemgarcia
who really cares hondas are slow as hell at first but with a little effort and alot of money you can turn them into something fast as with saturn granted the interiors are shabby but there was a time when that **** didn't matter and it really shouldn't because that stuff gets changed anyway, I for one don't care for interior I usually scrap the interior throw on a roll cage and start autocrossing if your a real racer not a ****ing ricer you should feel the same **** interior and **** anybody that doubts any car they think they can beat because have the time at the track hondas get beat almost all the time no matter what setup you have there is always someone out there with a better and faster ride
periods, son, periods...j/k

I agree with you about the interior point...but the saturn doesn't have performance either.
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Okay moron, I guess guys who buy Ferraris scrap their interiors too so that they can be FASTAR!!!!
I get what you're trying to say but this just got me remembering something. I was at Dover Downs a few months ago and there was this Ferrari Enzo taking 1/4 mile passes...I didn't get close enough to the car to see for myself, but someone told me he had seen it up close and the two things he noticed first were the supercharger's intake and the stripped interior + rollcage.

SUPERCHARGED ENZO??????
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why strip interior on enzo... i doubt it was stripped because they basically stripped from the factory, they dont have much in the interior as it is and i doubt takin out the 15-20lbs of stuff makes a difference, if he did strip it, the guy should just go on a diet instead
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^^ lol...the guy was really skinny.

yeah, but it still has interior panels...running those kind of times, 15-20 pounds makes a big difference...
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^^ makes completely useless posts that have no relevance to the subject at discussion and only serve to make him look immature

on-topic, I still want a turbo instead of the supercharger for the redline...
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so you're saying you want a redline?
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so you're saying you want a redline?
no. I want to see what kind of differences a turbo would make in the redline over the superchager (with upgraded internals, obviously)
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so you're saying you want a redline?
I would buy one if I knew a person who would immediately buy it from me for more than I bought it for...
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"on-topic, I still want a turbo instead of the supercharger for the redline..."
If that was the case, the only different between a redline and a srt4 would be that the redline has a supercharger...
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and motor displacement...and 1/4 mile time...not that either of those seem to matter to anyone here

I could name some more but it'd be pointless
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Yes it would. Now do you understand?
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Yes it would. Now do you understand?
I suppose so. I think you're trying to say that essentially the concept of the SRT-4 and the Redline are the same.

I disagree, but whatever, you're entitled to your own opinion.



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