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If you actually read what i wrote i said the made the most turbo cars(in the millions) not that they were the first, i believe mercedes was.

I'm not extremely lucky my truck is the last of three first generation grand cherokees my family has owned all with 100k+ and we've never had any major problems with them. Yes people have had problems with the ball joints, but if you get a stronger replacement and actually maintain it they don't break, the drive shaft is the only other problem people have and thats only with certain transfer cases that most people swap out for different models, or they convert to a different type of joint. The drive train components are used in wranglers and cherokees and those have been around for 50 and 20 years respectfully.

"Don't go with a company that has put out SERIOUSLY inferior products in the past"~if this was true we would all be riding bikes to work because every single car company has had a least one serious problem with there vehicles, these are machines not pop tarts they are very complex machines composed of parts from various manufacturing companies, you don't think they would change distributors if the products failed?

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...did=149549~wow hell must have frozen over because, oh my honda is having a recall. Hondas are perfect they never break down or have any problems!?!?!
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...rt/index1.html
If you actually do some research you realize chrysler didnt' just throw a turbo on a n/a car. the went through and upgraded the engine to handle even more boost the the factory setting.

Mopar just came out with a stage two kit, that allows you to control boost, inject water into the intercooler and run racing fuel. If it was going to fall apart i don't think they would sell a kit like that.

Subaru has had its share of recalls too
http://www.auto.com/industry/iwire8_20021108.htm
http://www.mycarstats.com/auto_recal...RU_Recalls.asp

What does a caravan's seat belt have to do with the srt-4's engine, they are pretty much the same thing lease:

Test drive both cars and see which one you like the best, don't listen online forums they are sadly 99% opinon

 
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that's just your opinion

 
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They suck! You are going to get it and want to ride it hard and when you do stuff will break. A guy on one of my local car forums has replaced his trans already and then he just busted off his motor mounts. The blocks are strong but nothing else is. Stick with a car you won't have to be wrenching or taking to the dealer all the time.

 
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I totally agree. There is no reliable race car! That's an oxymoron. You race it, after time you will break it.

I like the WRX as well. The catch is a new WRX will set you back roughly $24,620 MSRP to start.

As for the SRT being ugly, how could it be? It looks just like every other car today. Thats why you mod the hell out of it!

 
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a neon will always be a NEON....get the LANCER MR 12.9 STOCK

 
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They've got nice prices on WRX's here.... you can choose between $2k back or really low financing...

Yes, Neon's are lighter, and will more likely have a quicker 1/4 mile time, but do you really want to drive an SRT-4 as a daily ride? If that were me I'd choose a Subie... The SRT-4 would be a weekend only toy....

 
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This look familar??? "Chrysler has sold more turbo cars than any other car company." I was simply pointing out that since a great multitude of companies have been selling turbo cars worldwide (mercedes = 3rd world taxi), there is a low likelyhood that Dodge has sold more than any other company. Perhaps it would be wise of you to read what you wrote...

My point is that if the transfer cases, axels, and ball joints were made properly to begin with, you'd not have to replace them at all. I'm talking about shoddy craftsmanship and you're telling me ways to get around it. I think the easy way around crap mechanics is to not buy them in the first place. And all I said about the wranglers was that they has SUSPENSION AND FRAME ISSUES. If you're going to respond to posts, please insure you've read them first.

Nobody ever said any car company was perfect. Anything has mechanical problems from time to time. Why set yourself up for problems? The 2005's are not even AVAILABLE out here yet and they ALREADY have a recall. How good can their QC be to let that one slip by? At least Honda's cars go for a while before there are enough problems with things to force a recall.

If you'd actually think about it for a second you'd realize that your standard neon engine is --HISTORY-- if you run FI on it; in stock form, they're pretty pathetic by 30k. They built it up just enough to handle what was they were selling it at so you could stand a chance of getting your 70k warranty out of it if you drove it nicely enough not to manage to destroy it. We'll discuss the warranty and your precious bolt-ons after the next quote:
It might not kill you, but it won't do your wallet any favors. Check out this little blurb reguarding warranty on performance parts:
"Mopar Performance Parts Warranty

Mopar Performance Parts are sold "as is," without any warranty whatsoever. Implied warranties, including warranties of merchantability or fitness for a particular purpose, are excluded. The entire risk as to quality and performance of such parts is with the buyer. Should such parts prove defective following their purchase, the buyer and not the manufacturer, distributor or retailer, assumes the entire cost of all necessary servicing or repair."

Sounds like a wonderfull way to kill your car to me.... The whole bit about the buyer assuming the ENTIRE cost off all necessary service/repair just makes me feel so confident about the SRT-4 and Dodge's research Dodge did reeeeeeeaaaallllll well on screwing your wonderfull warranty if you buy bolt-ons, not only that, but the bolt-ons themselves have no warranty. You get the stage one, plug the computer in and it is mis-programed. Wind it up, it goes lean, burns your rings and valves, now you're blowing blue smoke everywhere and running terribly. Your new computer is dead and so are your rings, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it other than pay. You can't even get a refund on the computer. (unless you want to be a complete jerk-*** and give it to them to sell to someone else and have another car destroyed)

If they can screw up something as simple and time-honored as a seatbelt, and screw it up bad enough to force a recall, do you really want them building the rest of the car? Also how do you know they don't share the seatbelts between the product lines? Many of the other manufacturers do; the only differance is the bracket thats riveted to the housing. The locking internals are all the same.

Yeah, go drive the neon. Better yet, find someone who has one thats got some miles on it and take it for a drive. The steering will be vague and unresponsive, the pedal feedback will be non-existant with the exception of a tad bit of plate feel on the clutch and the suspension will not be tight and solid at all. The power will be fun, but the corners won't feel solid. Welcome to neon country.

And yes, I've driven a new SRT and an SRT with about 15k on the clock. I went from there and bought myself a Civic. The Civic is a much better car in fit, finish, responsiveness, braking, driver feedback, handling, track record, cost of ownership, value held, potential, insurance and safety.

There is a differance between good cars and fast cars.

The SRT-4 is a fast car.